EM you just hit the nail right through the Rafter.
________________________________
From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; G_NET
<[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; 'G_NET' <[email protected]>; 'WB Kyijomanyi'
<[email protected]>; 'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' <[email protected]>;
'eun Nyaronyango' <[email protected]>; 'sarahkagingo'
<[email protected]>; 'tmirundi' <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: [UAH] MULINDWA:'GENERAL KAYIHURA & MOVEMENTISTS: YOU HAVE GOT
MAIL''
Abbey Ssemuwemba
What we need from Uganda government and from all these good doers is to get
out of power. Not to discuss with them not to respond to questions but to
get out of power. Let us not get our priorities mixed up here sir.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Abbey Semuwemba
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:58 PM
To: [email protected]; Kale Kayihura
Cc: [email protected]; G_NET; WB Kyijomanyi; gaumoy nockrach-laduma;
eun Nyaronyango; sarahkagingo; tmirundi
Subject: Re: [UAH] MULINDWA:'GENERAL KAYIHURA & MOVEMENTISTS: YOU HAVE GOT
MAIL''
Edward,
I’m not trying to convert anyone to anything or telling anybody what to do.
I’m certainly not using this message as a bait for the government to kill
Ugandans in diaspora who pass via Entebbe Airport.
I have my own fish to reel in. Infact I do not know how I would push anyone
to do travel directly to Kampala if they are scared of doing it or if they
don't trust the security people at Entebbe Airport.
It's simply a fallacy to suppose that only a state can provide safety in a
country as ours yet safety in one’s homecountry is something people
routinely value. We all know that government does not promise a hereafter
but they can promise something as simple as saying:
'everyone is safe to travel in and out of Uganda regardless of what you
contribute on social networks'.
That’s why it’s important that the government engages security organs/
security people around the country; sensitize them about our feelings
towards them and their behaviour………….. such that we come to some sort of
understanding on certain situations.
It could be argued that the very survival of the NRM/Museveni government is
actually dependant on the fact that they regularly face hostile
opposition(both at home and abroad). The cycle has repeated itself countless
times over the millennia:Ugandans abroad enter the country through our
porous borders; do whatever they have to do at home; dont visit a lot of
people and then come back to oppose the government.
The unfortunate result has been "silent persecutions"if caught by the state;
not learning anything positive or new from their country during their stay;
failure to engage important people and colleagues - time after time after
time. Every time they pull the tiger's tail, they get scratched. Of course,
they blame the tiger.Is that what some of you would like to continue?
Ofcourse, It is not uncommon to find those within the government who
actually applaud these bad actions against some members from diaspora that
attempt to go home either to visit or stay permanently. For instance, didn’t
you read the response I got from Owekitibwa. Tony Owana when I first
introduced this issue? I thought we could use such an influential person in
the media to advocate for the peaceful return and safety at home of Ugandans
in diaspora, but his response totally diasppointed me. I'd almost be willing
to bet that Mr.Owana Tony would feel some sort of satisfaction if any of the
vocal people here on UAH or other social networks are arrested or killed by
the government at home.
But we won't give up engaging other sobber minds at home and in government
to see that Ugandans abroad feel free and safe to travel back home. This is
not only about me as Abbey Semuwemba but a lot of other people out there.
People have been convinced that we have got some sort of total military
dictatorship at home such that anything could happen to one walking down on
streets, and police would do nothing. People are scared of poison and
bullets. Everybody is scared, and this is not good for the country both in
the short and long run.
We need to start from somewhere, thus, my suggestions to General Kayihura
and others in the government.
Abbey
On 3/13/13, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]> wrote:
> Abbey Ssemuwemba
>
> Your message is not getting through for it is built on a very wrong
> premise, you start by defining it as "Our government" Abbey this is
> not my government and it is not a government of many members I knowing
> in this forum family.
> Facts be told we need it out of power. Abbey you are addressing this
> message to Omukulu Kayihura but some of us have opposed this
> government of yours even before Omukulu Kayihura ever expected to lead
> Uganda Police. That is classified as consistence sir. Now tell me why
> one would stand up today and declare that this is a government of all
> of you and in those all of you, includes EM sir? Abbey these people
> are about being in power and they will go an extra mile to reach that
> destination including killing those they should have cared about and
> you really think that standing in forum and asking for God's mercies
> will protect the membership in this family? And then what will the
> members of this forum do when they Kayihuras turn you into ebisubi
> byomubisi? For they will trust me it is only when you will become
> useless to them.
>
> Abbey you are a moderator of a forum that has a very large membership,
> please do not give people false pretense that you as a moderator have
> the ability to demand that they are safe to go to Uganda. Ugandans
> have lived passed The Movement, they sneak in and sneak out, they call
> their people and meet them in neighboring counties, kindly refrain
> from giving people a false hope that it is safe to fly to Uganda.
> You're going to cause deaths to people that would have outlived this
> government, and if I were you I would stand up and make a very clear
> declaration that every member in this forum has a right to decide to
> go home or not to go home, Abbey we have done this for the last 20
> plus years, why do you think it is important for you as a moderator of
> this forum to plead for our mercies sir? Don't give people false hopes
> for trust me one of those days a member of this forum is going to be
> arrested in Uganda and you will scream bloody murder in this forum and
> he or she will never be released and will end up dead into a safe
> house, then what will you do as a moderator of this forum? We all left
> Uganda on different issue and we have settled out here on different
> grounds and if we were smart enough to understand that it is not safe
> for us to remain in Uganda trust me we are smart enough to know that it is
safe to go home.
> And
> yes you can do your deals of safety in Uganda with yours truly
> Kayihura if your personal family is going to Uganda, but the
> membership of the forum is independent people, and the decision of
> going home must be theirs and theirs only. This is a very wrong path
> and kindly abandon it very immediately. They are going to kill your
> members left and center and you will end up palarized trust me. We
> sneak into Uganda when we decide to and it is not even a God damn business
of UAH let alone its moderator.
>
> And I have lived with the Movement long enough to make a very
> respectable statement as such.
>
> EM
> On the 49th
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and
> Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri
> Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Abbey
> Semuwemba
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:21 PM
> To: ugandans-at-heart
> Cc: WB Kyijomanyi; gaumoy nockrach-laduma; eun Nyaronyango; Kale
> Kayihura; sarahkagingo; tmirundi
> Subject: [UAH] MULINDWA:'GENERAL KAYIHURA & MOVEMENTISTS: YOU HAVE GOT
> MAIL''
>
> Mulindwa,
> Let me borrow the way you start your presentations on this
> forum:'GENERAL KAYIHURA & MOVEMENTISTS: YOU HAVE GOT MAIL''.... may be
> you will take me seriously.
>
> First of all, this is not just 'my government'...... it is 'our
> government', and i think we should continue to engage them whether we
> like them or not.
> If they want to kill or arrest us, that is their problem. Those who
> have dreams of killing any of us ....will also die one day, won't
> they? Yes, we shall all face death one day whether we like it or not.
>
> Ofcourse, it would bother me so much if anything happens to any of the
> UAH members or any other Ugandan when they are down in Uganda, and
> this is the reason why i think we need to find a way around this with
those in power.
>
> So, allow me to repost my message again because i think it's important
> and i
> quote:
>
> ''Friends:Hon.Kyanjo is Okay now after the treatment from UK and he is
> now safely back in Uganda.We have been informed that he even attended
> the JEEMA meeting a few days ago and his speech was back.God has
> listened to our prayers!
>
> I think we need to arrange with General Kayihura and other big people
> in the government to start giving Ugandans in diaspora who visit home
> some national tours such that it reduces on the misleading statements
> we normally get on the UAH forum and other social networks.
>
> Obviously, promises should be made that they are not going to be
> arrested for anything or harmed in any way. I just look at it as a way
> of building more bridges between us[ outside the country] and those at
> home. At the moment, everybody is suspicious of everybody and people
> like Tony Owana(UBC), Katerega Ahmed(Newvision), and others in that
category ...
> aren't helping. This talk about poison, posion………….is damaging the
> government and its getting out of control.
>
> What do you say, Gen. Kayihura? Are our forumists safe to visit home,
> connect with those in the government, make tours around the country,
> attend a few public functions while there and come back safely? Can
> you guarantee that they are safe and nothing will happen to them?
>
> It's a shame that any of us would visit Uganda and dont make a trip ,
> atleast to see: Gen. Kayihura's office; Brother Ahmed Katerega at
> Newvision; Owana at UBC, Brother Faruk Kirunda and Sister Aisha
> Kabanda at Statehouse; Robert Atuhairwe at State House; and so many
> others in the government. And the only reason i can think of is that
> Ugandans are afraid of the people in the government. They think they
> will be arrested or tortured or harmed because of what they write on
> social networks about the government.So, people go into the country
> quielty and leave quietly, but it shouldn't be like that. So, is
> anybody in the government going to help us on this one or they are
> happy with the status quo?
>
> We also need to have an official representative from the ministry of
> foreign affairs.... as a member of especially the UAH forum to make
> some notes for the government. A lot of good stuff are proposed here
> by the good brains from diaspora but it all goes to waste……. Basically
> because nobody is making any notes. The Tamare mirundis only love
> radio shows at home but not suggestions from diaspora. It’s only
> Sister Sarah Kagingo that probably makes some effort to reach out to
> everybody.''
>
> Byebyo ebyange!
>
>
> --
>
>
> *Abbey Kibirige Semuwemba*
>
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>
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> and balance for one another. It is within the court’s duty to ensure
> that power is never condense[d] into a single branch of government." -
> Judge Anna Diggs Taylor *
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Taylor *
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