Zimbabweans recently overwhelmingly endorsed the new draft Constitution,
which is now a constitutional Bill set to be tabled in Parliament. Zimbabwe
is gearing for harmonised elections to elect its President, Eighth
Parliament and local government. Our Senior Reporter *Fortious Nhambura (FN)
* caught up with University of Zimbabwe Law lecturer and International
Socialist Organisation leader *Munyaradzi Gwisai (MG*) to get his views on
these and other issues.
*FN: For the benefit of our readers could you start by telling us who is
Munyaradzi Gwisai?*

MG: I am teacher of the working class and I also teach at the University of
Zimbabwe. I am communist. I have been a communist since the early 1980s,
radicalised by the liberation war, radicalised by the music of Bob Marley
and Thomas Mapfumo. I became an organised communist here at the University
of Zimbabwe, mentored by the likes of Kempton Makamure, Shadreck Gutu and
so forth.

*FN: You were pushing for a “No” vote. What is your position now that the
electorate has voted “Yes”?*
MG: This referendum was not free and fair and the ISO document has put it
very clearly. There was no time for the ‘No’ group to campaign given three
weeks. It is funny now that we hear that the MDCs are complaining that the
three months they are getting are not enough for the election campaign. We
actually got three weeks and that is what they must appreciate.

Fundamentally we opposed it because it is draft for the rich. It is a
constitution for the capitalist, a constitution of the employers, and it is
a constitution of the imperialists. The imperialists are happy that the
land reform is being partially reversed. Foreign western farmers from the
very same countries that have imposed draconian sanctions on this country
and who have exploited millions of ordinary people in the world, are now
going to get millions as compensation under Chapter 16 of the draft
Constitution. This is a serious reversal of Amendment 16 of the
Constitution of Zimbabwe which stipulated that no compensation would be
paid to the white former farmers by Zimbabweans and if there was going to
be compensation it will be paid by the British.

It is an attack on workers. You see there is no compensation for former
farm workers in the draft; civil servants have not been the right to
collective bargaining. In the past four years this country has discovered
massive wealth in the form of diamonds, platinum but this Constitution does
not allow these resources to be used and owned by the people of Zimbabwe. I
can assure you as a lawyer that under section 71 of the Copac constitution
the Indigenisation and Empowerment Act will be declared unconstitutional.
There are no bread and butter empowering provisions in this constitution.
But we view this as one battle in a continuing war.

*FN: Copac says the final draft was posted long enough for those people who
wanted to look at it and raise their objections. Did you raise your
concerns back then and were any of the issues addressed in the final draft?
*
MG: The NCA did their application to the Supreme Court. Ourselves as the
International Socialist Organisation and concerned ZCTU affiliates launched
a protest with ZEC that we were not getting coverage in particular through
the State media. We also launched a Supreme Court application but these
appeals were thrown aside. In the spirit of constitutionalism and the fact
that they had taken four years to come up with the draft constitution, we
expected them to ask for more than three months before the voting. We feel
this was an ambushed referendum.

*FN: When you called for a “No” vote, were you implying that the Lancaster
House Constitution — as amended — was better than the new draft
constitution?*
MG: Changing constitutions is not like changing dresses or changing suits.
It is a process that goes over time. When President Mugabe and Vice
President Joshua Nkomo signed the Lancaster House Constitution in 1979
under pressure they said they were going to change it soon after they were
in power yet they have taken 33 years. Sure this is a battle lost but I say
it is not constitutions that ultimately determine the people’s struggle.
Laws and constitutions are only the product of the real struggles between
workers and exploiter classes.

I can assure that this will not stop cotton farmers of Gokwe fighting for
better producer prices, youths fighting for the right to trade that they
have been denied in this constitution and the civil servants for clamouring
for a living wage.

*FN: You have vowed to continue fighting for a new constitution. How are
you going to do this now that the majority has spoken? Isn’t this fighting
the people?*
MG: People don’t remain where they are forever, ideas change with time. As
the struggle continues one day the people will be able to see through the
ideas of the ruling elite and demand change.

If it were not so Nehanda could not have stood against the British
imperialists and told them to back off. When Zapu and Zanu were formed they
were a minority but because they stood on the right side of history they
were vindicated. You must not be afraid to be in the minority if you are on
the correct side of history.

*FN: Now that the referendum is complete and the country is headed for
harmonised elections, how do you evaluate the GNU and what are chances of
each political party?*

MG: The GNU has shown that they have denied the civil servants a living
wage. They have denied our youths and students grants and loans while they
are fattening themselves.

They stole the CDF money and now we hear the ministers want to give each
other golden handshakes. There has been no support for the rural farmers,
there are no fair producer prices, have taken a year to pay for deliveries
to the GMB. These elections will not bring emancipation for the workers. It
is a fight among the elites. I think the MDC-T and Tsvangirai have been
naïve and seriously blundered. They have been on a gravy train for four
years and instead of fighting for people’s emancipation. Tsvangirai and
Welshman Ncube have made their bed and they should lie in it. But what the
referendum has shown is that the two main political parties are evenly
balanced out and the likely result of this election is another GNU.

*FN: So you are saying no party leader will garner the 50 percent plus one
votes needed to lead this country? *
MG: Obviously the advantage of the protest vote of 2008 for the MDC is
gone. The corrupt behavior of its councillors and ministers has eroded
that. How do you expect workers to be encouraged when we have Elton
Mangoma, a senior MDC minister supervising a ministry that dismisses a
workers’ leader, Angeline Chitauro, for demanding a living wage? When we
have Minister Paurina Mpariwa for four years failing to issue minimum wages
for domestic workers and other employees? When we have Matibenga refusing
to meet public servants and the neoliberal policies of Tendai Biti have not
endeared the MDC with the people? They represent a betrayal of the hopes
and aspirations and sacrifices of the people of Zimbabwe who built the
original MDC.

So a combination of those factors clearly shows that we are likely to have
a repeat of March 2008 where the MDC will retain mostly urban areas and
Manicaland provinces with Zanu-PF retaining control of the key Mashonaland
provinces and the Midlands.
**

*FN: Some allies of the MDC-T have castigated Mr Morgan Tsvangirai’s
leadership style and have hinted at forming a coalition with you. You
poured cold water on that, what should be the way forward?*

MG: We are in support of a mass revolutionary party, a party that is
controlled by the working class, a party that ensures that the wealth of
our society is owned and controlled by the people and not a few
capitalists. It must not be a party that sucks from the breast of western
imperialists. You don’t build that party overnight; neither do you build it
in an NGO boardroom. This is our query with our colleagues that may think
that you can just wake up one day and dream up a party. It will be just
another elitist party and will go nowhere like FORUM or ZUD.

We leave it to our colleagues in the NCA, it is their right. In fact it
develops a forward movement for Lovemore Madhuku and others because they no
longer have the illusions they had in Tsvangirai and the MDC. Professor
Madhuku and the NCA have been naïve on their illusions in the MDC and the
West. We were the pioneers in saying that the MDC had been infiltrated by
the rich way back in 2002 and for that we were expelled. We defended the
right of the people to seize land without compensation from whites and
westerners. We have no illusions in Tsvangirai, in Biti or Ncube, whether
as individuals or as parties that they will result in the emancipation of
workers lives. So Tsvangirai is no hero of ours.

*FN: You were expelled from the MDC. Some people allege that since then you
have been more critical of the MDC-T. Is this not a case of sour grapes? *
MG: It is not sour grapes because the same values we stood for are still
the same today. We are glad that some people like Madhuku, Lovemore
Majongwe and others are beginning to see that. The true taste of sincerity
lies in that we have remained in the trenches fighting for democracy for
the past decade despite our expulsion and for that we have paid a dear
price.
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