Yoswa
That was a simple example of the problem in housing Police Officers, we have
not seen it in Police Officers only but in Western Countries we have the
very same problem of housing poor people in city blocks. The system here
needs to be broken down so that they go to market value than being piled up
into government Ghettoes, this is not only a problem in Uganda but all over
the place. Bottom line government can never be an effective land lord. But
to police people those policing them must understand the problem in the area
by living in same areas. Community Policing is cheaper it is effective and
it lessens the authoritarian rule in a country for it transfers the Police
from a government hand to a people hand. Let the government train and set up
the standards, at a cost paid by the people or cities then the cities pay
for uniforms and salaries.
You are going to house them till when?
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of YOSWA DAMBISYA
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UAH] Wanted Ugandan Gen. hides in London///
Ndugu Mulindwa,
That would be to confuse issues. Same as saying let's legalise theft since
people have been thieves forever.
As you will note, limit the number of babies, except in places like China
and Singapore where punitive policies are applied (I am aware the latter
moved in the opposite direction) tends to happen organically, as part of
general human development. With better education of mother leading to better
child survival, with fewer men opting for multiple wives, and with human
ambition reaching higher levels, there is a gradual shift from quantity to
quality of children. That in my view is how the number of children will come
down.
Whatever the case, we cannot abolish barracks on the grounds that police
officer have many children. And all the other reasons I have seen are
equally unconvincing.
Best regards,
Yoswa
On 28 May 2013 10:23, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]> wrote:
Yoswa Dambisya
How do you house employees that you do not control the number of babies
they puke out?
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of YOSWA DAMBISYA
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UAH] Wanted Ugandan Gen. hides in London///
General Kayihura,
The Ugandan situation is such that we need a locus for the police services,
and a barracks arrangement is perfectly fine. I therefore support the
continuing housing of our police personnel in barracks, which should be
close to police offices. What's being clamoured for is similar to what
happened when government was convinced to sell off ALL government houses,
including those for hospital workers. Now there are efforts to construct
houses for health workers - it would have been ADDING to, but no, it is now
starting from scratch. I see those eyeing the prime land location of the
barracks as being such whispers, get the police out and give the land to I
hear investors, perhaps?
But such housing must be decent housing - this business of three families in
a two-roomed match-box structure is too dehumanising for the police, the
mama ingiya poles must also be gotten rid of. If those of you with access to
the monies would spare some for a house per year per barracks, you would
still steal enough and there would be quite a few more houses in the
barracks. The structures built in the 50s and 60s in the older barracks are
begging to be put out of their misery. Honestly, the IGP must have a sense
of shame seeing those structures everywhere, and such a sense of shame must
be translated into action.
For those who think barracks are anachronistic, don't be fooled by what you
see in the West, for our poor systems the barracks are warranted.
Best regards,
Yoswa
On 28 May 2013 09:56, Kale Kayihura <[email protected]> wrote:
Thank you, Ndugu. I get you. On the barracks, even if that was the best
option, where do we get the money to give our personnel to build themselves
houses.
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On May 28, 2013, at 10:16 AM, "Robukui ." <[email protected]> wrote:
IGP Kale,
You know exactly what I am talking about, but for our purposes and for this
forum, I understand.
The ring, specifically, refers to layers of security. As a Presidential
detail, I see fully where you are coming from.
In your wisdom, you must believe, as ambitious as Tinye was/is, he has
created a special class of Ugandans, with the capability ( if his state
protection was ever dissolved) to bring him to justice.
Kale, as I said before, i am a strong believer that the army should not, and
can not do Police work.
We can have that debate any day.
To answer you bluntly, let Ugandans deal with Tinye. You will be surprised
beyond belief.
Nothing Tinye can sell, will change the status quo, that is a fact.
On a more serious note, you have to close ALL Police Barracks. The reason
are many and plenty full.
Viele GruBe
Robukui
On 27 May 2013 23:53, Kale Kayihura <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't understand what you are talking about. In fact, I had misunderstood
that the ring you were talking about was in respect of the President.
Otherwise, quite frankly I do not understand what you are talking about. And
please am Kale not his proxy.
Sent from
On May 28, 2013, at 9:46 AM, "Robukui ." <[email protected]> wrote:
IGP Kale,
You choose when your proxy can speak, as for Tinye, you surely don't believe
you are the only entity that monitored his movements in the UK? That
information is public on forums, beyond your reach( for now anyway, you know
Ugandans).
You or your proxy are limited in comments on Tinye, but you choose to
comment on this thread.
Your colleague, Tinye's hands are not clean, are you prepared to stand
behind his missions, as a commissioned NRA officer?
YOu walked into this one, Kale.
Viele GruBe
Robukui
On 27 May 2013 23:16, Kale Kayihura <[email protected]> wrote:
What ring? You go ahead and wish the country the worst. It is you who will
be surprised. Whatever you prefer to believe, history shall absolve us.
Sent from
On May 28, 2013, at 8:50 AM, "Robukui ." <[email protected]> wrote:
Kale,
As I am sure you already know, he has a ring around him, it has to be an
inside job, Ugandans might surprise you.
Sometimes the cure is more painful, in the short term.
Viele GruBe
Robukui
On 27 May 2013 06:16, chaka Jay <[email protected]> wrote:
Ugandans are chicken thieves! All this years M7 has been ruling, beating
Ugandans, why on Earth does Ugandans revolt. I mean buy few AK47 and start
shooting back the policemen or anyone supporting this guy. How can one guy
tremble on the rights of 30 million plus people. Weak Ugandans all they know
is to drink and complain. Give them a couple of chicken legs they think that
is freedom.
God has curse you guys.
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To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>;
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [UAH] Wanted Ugandan Gen. hides in London///
Abbey,
Tinye is not a small man, you know that, don't you? President Museveni is on
record for having said that, revolutionaries do not go like chicken thieves.
My understanding is that, he meant all of them. Tinye might be on a tactical
withdrawal mission in the UK therefore.
If indeed it is true that revolutionaries hate going some where like chicken
thieves, then some of us are eagerly waiting to see what next this Gen. has
in stock for us. But it could be true though. Have you seen president
Museveni's convoy passing by on Enteebbe rd? Bwana kubwa owns both lanes
(going /coming)......that is certainly not a chicken thief passing by.
Even if it was a chicken thief with a lot of style.....that is a bit too
classy.
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To: <[email protected]>;
Subject: Re: [UAH] Wanted Ugandan General Says He Is Hiding in London - ABC
News
Sent: Sun, May 26, 2013 7:46:04 PM
Peter,
I'm still not a fan of Gen.Tinye whatever storm he has caused in Kampala.
But if i happen to meet him on streets of London or anywhere in England, i
would gladly say 'hello', and that is where it ends.
The fact is that Tinye is gonna be an expensive asylum seeker for the
British government, but at the same time, they see him as a valuable asset
in case of any misunderstandings with the Uganda government. He is fleeing
'actual' political persecution and looking for protection, and i think he
will get it. If the MI5 gave protection to the guy who wrote the satanic
verses for years and some of the people that fell out with Libya's Gadafi,
why wouldn't they do the same for Tinye.
Like i said, there is always a catch: giving them valuable info when they
need it about your opponent.
Abbey
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Gwokto La'Kitgum <[email protected]>
wrote:
Fellow Natives,
Its time we took Tinye's split seriously. Once more, the is a dark cloud of
gloom slowly falling over the country. That it is Museveni's rib that has
chosen to leave his body's regime means there is a lot we natives dont know
is happening in Museveni's house and within his immediate kindred. So now
what is Tinye up to with his new-found fame? I should want to believe he
will not want to simply fade away from the Uganda's political scene and must
be preparing a special delivery for Museveni. Are we headed to another
Luwero soon?
This is what I have come to know about violent changes in African regimes
recently. And it is that the West will agree to allow a war to go ahead if
and when its got to do with removing a despot like Museveni. Tinye will sure
garner sudden support right from his present spider hole - UK that is. ALL
Western governments DO NOT WANT Museveni anymore but they can not get on to
removing the beast. Now that a general from his own ethnicity and an in-law,
above all, is going to do the dirty job, the West will only be too eager to
rid Uganda off another and real brother to Gadhaffi - Museveni. I said
sometimes ago that I predicted Museveni's family scattering all over Africa
like hyenas surprised during a feast on a fellow dead hyena. Because with
Museveni, the whole world knows it will take AKs to remove him from power.
If I were him, I would start to make peace with Kony for readiness to grant
him refuge in his ICC-proof country called Garamba.
Its a Dog eat Dog World in Kaguta's house these day my country men and women
___________________________________
Gwokto La'Kitgum
On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Abbey Semuwemba <[email protected]>
wrote:
So, he is not coming back? I knew it. Now, let him seek asylum properly
and ask for police protection.
He won't be allowed to release anymore state secrets or classified
information to the media once he seeks asylum here in the UK. That is
the drill!
Abbey
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