Yes, lets pray for the resurrection of the great idea! Everybody....Everywhere!
On 7/24/13, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]> wrote: > Ggwe Kasirivu > > > > You have mail. > > > > EM > On the 49th > > > > > > Thé Mulindwas Communication Group > "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" > Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi > "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of matek > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:14 AM > To: ugandacom; voice-of-uganda > Subject: Re: [Ugandacom] Is Buganda still relevant as a monarchy in the > 21st > century? > > > > > > "Very intelligent! twice overthrown. UPC dead and buried. th North cowed > and > raped. Very intelligent." > > > > EM : > > Tell Kasiria that there is nobody in the world capable of destroying an > Idea. UPC is an IDEA. AN IDEA MAY LAY DORMANT FOR A WHILE but then it has a > capability of re-emerge by it's self,,as the old dormant seeds all of a > sudden germinates.. > > > > MK > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Daudi Kasirye > > And at the end of the day trust me Buganda with its Kingdom are way screwed > than any part of Uganda. For either way you slice The Movement departure, > the North is on rebound, East is on rebound, Western Uganda will face some > deaths but will with time rebound. The danger with Buganda is that all > those > that are rebounding, are starting to understand the sacrifice they suffer > by > Buganda's stupidity. It is so funny that someone today sent me a text that > made me ponder and it was very simple. Museveni is a very smart man he has > managed to tie Buganda and UPC in a same relationship. In all damage he has > done in Uganda, do you actually know Olara Otunu's stand let alone > Ssabassajja Mutebi's? > > Then she went "Byona biferire bifangagana !!!!!! Whew ! > > EM > On the 49th > > Thé Mulindwas Communication Group > "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" > Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi > "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <mailto:ugandanet-bounces%40kym.net> > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:ugandanet-bounces%40kym.net> ] On > Behalf > Of daudi kasirye > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:15 PM > To: [email protected] > <mailto:ugandans-at-heart%40googlegroups.com> > Cc: Oryema Johnson; [email protected] > <mailto:Ugandacom%40yahoogroups.com> ; G_NET > Subject: Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} Is Buganda still relevant as a monarchy in the > 21st century? > > Very intelligent! twice overthrown. UPC dead and buried. th North cowed and > raped. Very intelligent. > > On 7/23/13, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected] > <mailto:mulindwa%40look.ca> > wrote: >> Ggwe George Ssendiwala >> >> >> >> Yoweri Museveni has lead this country for almost 30 years, the only >> people he has killed apart from Northerners and Easterners are only >> Baganda. And yet there is no single indication to show that he is about >> to > leave power. >> 85 of babies born in Buganda today are fathered by Rwandese even those >> that think are fathered by Baganda men. Wabula wakyaliwo Enungu eyimba >> mbu without Buganda there is no Uganda. Look all money has gone to >> Mbarara and Kampala has been turned into a cows feeding shack. Allow >> me to quote you one thing my dear friend George Ssendiwala what a very >> intelligent man said on Uganda. You can win a Uganda election without >> winning a single constituency in Buganda. –Dr Apollo Milton Obote >> >> >> >> Awo oli ku Pokopoko era byoyogedde bya’Swakaba !!!!! >> >> >> >> EM >> On the 49th >> >> >> >> >> >> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and >> Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" >> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri >> Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] > <mailto:ugandans-at-heart%40googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:ugandans-at-heart%40googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf Of George >> Ssendiwala >> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:24 AM >> To: [email protected] > <mailto:ugandans-at-heart%40googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: {UAH} Is Buganda still relevant as a monarchy in the 21st >> century? >> >> >> >> H.O., >> >> Without Buganda there is no Uganda. Kindly rephrase your question so >> as to attract DEEP answers/ thoughts. >> >> I feel the itch you are massaging but you are an inch off target. >> >> Soft and Real Power really rests in that building below. And YES we >> can restructure the monarchy without disrespecting the existing. >> Uganda will remain anchored on Buganda. >> >> George S. >> >> _____ >> >> From: Hannah Ogwapiti <[email protected] > <mailto:hannahogwapiti%40googlemail.com> > >> To: [email protected] > <mailto:ugandans-at-heart%40googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:52 AM >> Subject: {UAH} Is Buganda still relevant as a monarchy in the 21st > century? >> >> >> >> >> Is Buganda still relevant as a monarchy in the 21st century? >> >> >> Is Buganda still relevant as a monarchy in the 21st century? >> <http://www.monitor.co.ug/image/view/-/1924230/highRes/547248/-/maxw/6 >> 00/-/14ddiet/-/Report02pix.jpg> >> >> >> Bulange Mengo, the administrative seat of Buganda Kingdom. Analysts >> say whereas the kingdom runs its own government headed by the >> Katikkiro, it is politically impotent and has been overshadowed by the > central government. >> File Photo. >> >> In Summary >> >> In our series “Celebrating 20 years”, we take a look at Kabaka Ronald >> Mutebi’s 20-year-reign and how his kingdom is far from getting over >> its political turbulence. >> >> For 27 years, Buganda had no kingdom, and one of Kabaka Mutebi’s >> palaces on the outskirts of Kampala had been turned into an army >> barracks, while the seat of the Buganda government in Mengo served as >> the headquarters of the Ministry of Defence. >> >> It all began with the infamous raid by independence leader Milton >> Obote of King Edward Muteesa’s palace in 1966. Monarchies were >> abolished, the king fled into exile in the United Kingdom and his son, >> Muwenda Mutebi, grew up in a foreign country, accommodated and supported > by friends. >> >> Things started to change for the better on July 31, 1993 when Buganda >> Kingdom was restored with the coronation of Mutebi as its 36th king. >> The ceremony at Naggalabi, the birthplace of the kingdom, remains one >> of the momentous events in Buganda’s history. >> >> On August 3 (actual anniversary is July 31), Buganda will be >> celebrating the 20th anniversary of Mutebi’s coronation with pomp and >> ceremony. Many Baganda, the country’s largest ethnic group, will be >> taking stock of the two decades of their Kabaka’s coronation. >> >> While Baganda will remember Mutebi’s colourful wedding with Sylvia >> Nagginda in 1999 and the birth of Princess Katrina Sangalyambogo in >> 2001 and that of Prince Richard Ssemakokiro (out of wedlock) in 2012 >> as highlights of the past 20 years, there have been sad chapters in >> the kingdom’s history in recent years. >> >> The challenges >> It has not all been smooth sailing. There have been ups and downs, and >> there are still lingering questions about the relevance of a monarchy >> in the 21st century. >> >> Baganda’s quest for federo, as the federal system is called in Uganda, >> has so far come to nothing - and it seems highly unlikely that it will >> bear fruit in the foreseeable future. The central government has >> allowed Buganda to have and to do many things but it balks at ceding >> political power to the kingdom, something that has angered many in Mengo. >> >> President Museveni, who played a key role in having the monarchy >> restored, has been foremost in warning traditional and cultural >> leaders to steer clear of politics. >> >> Restoring Baganda’s kingdom was a token of appreciation for the >> support they gave him during his 1980s bush war that brought him to >> power. But Museveni seems not ready to do more for Baganda, especially >> where political power is concerned. Granting Baganda a federal status >> means that other kingdoms will be pressing similar demands, and that >> leaves a question mark on the future of a unitary system of government. >> >> Some Baganda politicians have proposed a federal system that leaves >> the central government intact, but this has had only a tepid response >> from the powers that be. >> >> Buganda can still use its numerical strength and economic power – >> something it has dismally failed to do in the past – to gain state >> power. It has a large number of well-educated and ambitious people >> although many of them, especially the youth, do not seem to value >> their culture and norms and even have trouble speaking and writing their > own language. >> >> Despite being politically impotent, Buganda continues to run its own >> government, headed by the prime minister who is appointed by the king. >> The king also appoints ministers but their ministerial duties appear >> to be largely symbolic. >> >> NRM Vs Buganda >> Buganda has also continued to occupy a central but not necessarily >> powerful position in the country’s politics, with some of the key >> ministries and institutions being led by Baganda. Since Mr Museveni >> came to power in 1986, three of his four vice presidents have been >> Baganda – Samson Kisekka, Gilbert Bukenya and Edward Ssekandi. >> >> Out of seven ministers who have held the Finance portfolio, five have >> been Baganda. They are Ponsiano Mulema (RIP), Joash Mayanja-Nkangi, >> Gerald Ssendaula, Syda Bbumba and Maria Kiwanuka. The central bank has >> also largely been headed by Baganda – Suleiman Kiggundu (RIP) and >> Charles Nyonyintono Kikonyogo. >> >> Many say that appointing Baganda to key positions (the new head of the >> army, Gen Edward Katumba Wamala, is also a Muganda) does not mean >> Buganda wields power, but it seems that is how Mr Museveni has managed >> to gain the electoral support of Baganda as many voters attach a great >> deal of importance to having a minister who belongs to their tribe. >> >> The kingdom may have nothing to celebrate on the political front, but >> it has been making attempts – some successful; others unsuccessful - >> at building institutions that can generate income. >> >> The prize example is the Central Broadcasting Service (CBS). Launched >> in 1996, CBS is Buganda’s flagship business venture and arguably the >> most successful. It makes money for the kingdom and employs many >> Baganda (and >> non-Baganda) who would otherwise be jobless. >> >> In 1997, when the army vacated Lubiri which it had occupied for >> decades, Buganda tried to expand its media empire, launching Njuba >> Times as a bi-lingual daily. But the newspaper - like Teefe Trust Bank >> which was launched by prominent Baganda in 1992, – was a disaster. >> Njuba Times had trouble paying its staff and did not celebrate its first > anniversary. >> >> The 2009 deadly riots that began when Mutebi was prevented by the >> central government from visiting Kayunga, are sadly remembered by many > Baganda. >> >> The violence left scores dead and also saw CBS taken off air for more >> than a year, regaining the right to broadcast only after protracted >> negotiations with government officials who set preconditions for the >> radio to reopen. CBS has since refrained from discussing politically >> sensitive matters. Its temporary closure exposed the powerlessness of the > kingdom. >> >> Another sad event was the torching in 2010 of the Kasubi Tombs, which >> accommodated the mausoleums of Buganda’s past kings. Mutebi, who >> visited the gutted tombs along with his wife, wept. A commission of >> inquiry the kingdom promised would investigate the cause of the fire >> has never revealed anything. >> >> The writer is Al Jazeera’s online Africa Editor and is based in Doha, >> Qatar. >> >> Tomorrow, we shall look at the dark moments Kabaka Mutebi has faced >> under his reign. >> [email protected] <mailto:editorial%40ug.nationmedia.com> >> >> >> >> -- >> H.OGWAPITI >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that >> we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only >> unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American > public." >> ---Theodore Roosevelt >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3204/6013 - Release Date: >> 07/23/13 >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Ugandanet mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:Ugandanet%40kym.net> > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet > > UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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