So where do we go from there?
We can only know where we want to go after we have taken stock of our
country's affairs, institutions in particular.
To change Govt or the office bearers is the easy and superficial part. And
change for it's sake is futile.
With violent change the worst of them all. Don't take me wrong. Our
officers of State still have to be accountable.
For me I see Uganda's worst peril in the Education Ministry. We are slowly
being castrated. Losing Numeracy puts our country in peril. In 1964
Uganda's Maths Curriculum was cut by half. It has been cut into half again
now.
Maths curriculum aside, is Mr Njuba. He reminds me of the Old Kabaka Yekka.
In KY, they always retorted back to Obote?* "You have throw us, your
ladder, away. How are you ever going to climb down?". Crushing was always
the implied alternative!! *
Obote never answered the question. For half a Century we Ugandans have just
plodded on. pretended we can move forward without answering it.
But me I remember KY. And my default is not to blame m7 for this. Kabaka
Yekka posed an existential question. It will not disappear even after we
have bombed ourselves insane.
Twenty five years after the last Constitutional Conference is good time to
have another one, and to re arrange our corridors of power, to advance our
country and to enhance National Security.
, . . Move Powers away from So Our officers of State still have to be
accountable
Still Blame laid down a framework!!
Default is to blame m7 for this. But me I remember KY. Our officers of
State still have to be accountable but it high time lks for issues we s and
refence And As if Whom do yoinstituedThey ifsigye-Ingrid Turinawe are
totally discredited,and diversionary. That is why I am with our Police to
stop them.
Mitayo
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mitayo Potosi <mitayopoto...@gmail.com>wrote:
> *Re: [Ugnet] {UAH} Statement on Public Order Management Bill by Hon. (
> Amb) James Baba*
>
> Folks,
>
> Me I think this *Public Order Management Bill* is not wide enough.
>
> The demonstrations we see in Uganda are organized to advance foreign
> interests.
>
> When Imperialists kill Gadhafi, and The Chief Khadi of Uganda is there
> crying in Public and infront of the Grand Mosque at Old Kampala; and
> Five African Presidents that are mandated by the AU to fly to Libya to
> resolve the problem are prevented from flying to Libya, on our African
> Continent by the likes of Canada’s Stephen Harper, What does Besigye do?
>
> He gets a call from the British Ambassador to mount a “Walk to Work”
> demonstration to divert our focus.
>
> So my request to the Government is to “Smash” such Demonstrations. The
> ones that undermine our country.
>
> If Besigye is genuine let us storm the Ministry of Education. The one
> where our children are given Diplomas for “kubajja” three-legged Karomoja
> stools. The one where Britain has infiltrated to cut the country’s Maths
> Curriculum by half.
>
> What is built in Kla by our engineers collapses. Of course there is zero
> Maths taught in the country. That is the problem. British like that way to
> keep us silly.
>
> St Mary’s Kisubi never had a Maths Teacher. JC Kiwanuka is/was a Geography
> teacher who also taught Maths – No wonder you see no Kisubi OB Mathematics
> Professors. Budo only briefly had two Maths teachers I know ( My very best
> friend Brother “magician” from Kigezi, and one Nakabaale). They had
> Okello-Ongicha with Geography and Maths. We need serious Maths to build our
> country.
>
> The Besigye-Ingrid Turinawe are totally discredited,and diversionary. That
> is why I am with our Police to stop them.
>
> Mitayo Potosi
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa
> <mulin...@look.ca>wrote:
>
>> Robukui****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Uganda’s problem is not The Nazis it is the stupidity sitting in our
>> country. You will remove them and still get a government that is worse.
>> Think about it, why are Ugandans ecstatic about this document? A document
>> that has absolutely no sense? You know I have posted some writings about
>> the net access in Uganda, and do you know what I figured out? Ugandans
>> actually believe that if a government buys a mobile transmission truck, it
>> has created a best Radio Uganda. They have no idea how a society gets built
>> with full infrastructures. Uganda is pacing at a speed that by 2015 I will
>> only need a ship with a communication system where Ugandans can buy cells
>> in Kampala and call via the ship at the Lake Victoria waters. And the
>> Orangutans wills stand to praise how EM has developed the country. I am
>> going to remember too to pack in support of internet. So you walk into our
>> office in Kampala we hand you a hand set and a new number but you actually
>> call from the ship at water.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Ugandans will praise that as a telephone system growth.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> EM
>> On the 49th****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
>> "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
>> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
>> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika
>> machafuko"****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Robukui .
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2013 8:44 PM
>> *To:* UAH
>> *Cc:* e...@mediacentre.go.ug
>> *Subject:* Re: {UAH} Statement on Public Order Management Bill by Hon. (
>> Amb) James Baba****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Abbey,****
>>
>> The sooner we get ride of these Nazi's from our Country, the better.
>> These Nazi tactics will be highlighted and resisted, they have condemned in
>> every sober corner of the world, we see it for what it is. The Police
>> serve only the people, not as a tool of a Dictatorship, that is on it's
>> last lap.****
>>
>> Hitler’s police state worked on the rule that if you said nothing, no
>> harm, could come to you. If you had doubts about the way the country was
>> going, you kept them to yourself - or paid the price. As nearly 17 million
>> people had not voted for either the Nazis or the Nationalist in March 1933,
>> a large and visible police force was required to keep this sizeable group
>> under observation and control.****
>>
>> In Nazi Germany <http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Nazi%20Germany.htm> the
>> police were allowed to arrest people on suspicion that they were about to
>> do wrong. This gave the police huge powers. All local police units had to
>> draw up a list of people in their locality who might be suspected of being
>> "Enemies of the State". This list was given to the Gestapo - the Secret
>> Police. The Gestapo had the power to do as it liked. Its leader - Reinhard
>> Heydrich - was one of the most feared man in Nazi Germany. His immediate
>> chief was Heinrich
>> Himmler<http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/heinrich_himmler.htm>.
>> Both men ran their respective branches with ruthless efficiency.****
>>
>> Those arrested by either the police or the Gestapo had less than three
>> minutes to pack clothing and say their goodbyes. Once arrested, they were
>> sent to the nearest police cell. Those in custody were told to sign Form
>> D-11; this was an "Order For Protective Custody". By signing this, you
>> agreed to go to prison. Those who did not sign it were beaten until they
>> did or officers simply forged their signature. Once a D-11 was signed, you
>> were sent to a concentration camp. How long you stayed here depended on the
>> authorities. The usual rule of thumb was whether it was felt that you had
>> learned your lesson (even if there had not been one to learn) and would
>> behave in an acceptable manner once outside of prison.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi_police_state.htm****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Viele GruBe*****
>>
>> *Robukui*****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On 16 August 2013 17:33, Abbey Semuwemba <abbeysemuwe...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> MIA/01/0813* *16th August 2013****
>>
>> *PRESS STATEMENT*****
>>
>> *PUBLIC ORDER MANAGEMENT BILL SEEKS TO REGULATE GATHERINGS*****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> *BACKGROUND.*****
>>
>> 1. As you may be aware, the Public Order and Management Bill
>> (POMB), 2011 was recently passed and now awaits assent by His Excellency
>> the President, after which it will be an enforceable law in Uganda. While
>> such processes regarding the bill are still underway, Government is seeking
>> to highlight its core aspects to help the public understand it better. This
>> is because the NRM Government realizes that new laws such as the POMB are
>> better enforceable, if they are well understood by various stakeholders and
>> the general public. ****
>>
>> 2. To put the POMB into context, on 27th May 2008, the
>> Constitutional Court made a ruling in Constitution Petition No. 9/06,
>> *Muwanga
>> Kivumbi vs Attorney General*, annulling Section 32 (2) of the Police
>> Act. This section empowered the Inspector General of Police to prohibit
>> public assemblies or demonstrations where the assemblies or demonstrations
>> posed a likelihood to the breach of peace. The Court found that the powers
>> given to the Police in this section were discretionary, prohibitive and not
>> regulatory. The Police therefore no longer has the power to prohibit a
>> procession or an assembly even if it was likely to degenerate into violence
>> and disorder. ****
>>
>> 3. It should however be noted that whereas Court annulled Section
>> 32 (2) of the Police Act, Section 32 (1) was retained and it gives power to
>> the Police to *REGULATE* and direct the conduct of assemblies and
>> processions in public places. Thus, the POMB does not prohibit public
>> gatherings but seeks to regulate them for the greater public interest and
>> common good of all.****
>>
>> 4. As members of the “fourth estate”, I hope you will be
>> Government’s partners in disseminating this Statement and the contents of
>> the POMB which I will highlight shortly so that any gray areas there-in are
>> explained and clarified for every citizen and stakeholder to appreciate.
>> ****
>>
>> *ISSUES IN THE POMB.*****
>>
>> *5.** *Broadly, the POMB is intended to regulate public meetings
>> and to provide for the duties and responsibilities of the Police, the
>> Organizers of public meetings and the people who participate in them,
>> taking care of those who may be affected by such meetings. The term
>> regulate as defined in the Bill, is to ensure that conduct and behavior
>> conforms to the requirements of the Constitution and the law. *Thus, I
>> need to emphasise* *here that the Bill does not require of organisers of
>> such public gatherings to seek for permission to have them BUT rather spell
>> out modalities for managing their conduct. *****
>>
>> 6. Indeed, the Bill guarantees the right to assemble and
>> demonstrate peacefully and unarmed as granted by the Constitution and the
>> law. It emphasises the responsibility for security and public safety in
>> excercising the fundamental rights and freedoms. The Bill also lays out
>> measures aimed at safeguarding public order without compromising the
>> principles of democracy, freedom of association or assembly and freedom of
>> speech. It also provides for the Police to protect the persons and the
>> property of the persons engaged in demonstrations, processions, assemblies
>> or public meetings and other members of the public affected by the meeting.
>> ****
>>
>> 7. The Bill enjoins us to observe the fundamental rights and
>> freedoms of others who may not be participating in such public meetings and
>> demonstrations in exercise of their rights not to participate. For
>> instance, it requires of organizers of public gatherings to manage them
>> such that they do not disrupt economic activities of others, say market
>> vendors, along highways and activities in central business areas of urban
>> centers. ****
>>
>> 8. For spontaneous gatherings involving public figures like members
>> of parliament or religious or cultural leaders are often mobbed by their
>> constituents whenever they go visiting. Here the requirement of
>> notification will not apply for such unplanned unscheduled or unintended
>> gatherings. The only consideration for law enforcers is to check that the
>> gathering is not in a place that is already booked or is not suitable for
>> traffic or crowd control. ****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> 9. The Bill also seeks to ensure that even when public gatherings
>> are held, acceptable levels of civility are guaranteed. This is cognizant
>> of the possibility of a gathering, which may have been intended to be
>> peaceful getting charged and spiraling into violence, loss of lives and
>> needless destruction of property. Those of you who witnessed the 2007
>> “Mabira riots” in Kampala concur with me that public gatherings, if not
>> properly regulated, can indeed degenerate into chaos, loss of lives and
>> damage to property. On several occasions, the “walk-to-work” protests of
>> 2012, after being joined by criminal minded elements also tended to
>> degenerate into chaos, disruption of business activity, destruction of
>> property and cases of outright looting! It is such unintended and costly
>> incidences, that the POMB seeks to address so that organizers and
>> participants enjoy their right to public gatherings, but to also have
>> safe-guards that ensure civility and order for everyone all around. ****
>>
>> 10. The POMB is also intended to have orderliness particularly at
>> popular venues for hosting public gatherings like play grounds and open
>> parks or gardens. The requirement to notify the Police when fulfilled, will
>> ensure that a possible clashing of such gatherings with potential for
>> conflict is avoided. This is because Police who receive documented
>> notifications of intention to host gatherings on a first come, first served
>> basis, would be in position to advise on whether or not a particular venue
>> is available on a given particular date and time. Ordinarily, if the venue
>> is available, the proposed gathering would be held while an alternative
>> venue or date and time would have to be sought if the venue in question is
>> already booked and not available. This is particularly required, for
>> instance during campaigns when schedules of competing candidates must be
>> harmonized, in order to avoid possible clashing at venues. ****
>>
>> 11. *I need to emphasise here that the realm of the POMB does not
>> encompass private gathering like funerals, parties, nightclubs, weddings
>> and prayer sessions in places of worship!* Such gatherings are exempt
>> from the ambit of the POMB. However, for purposes of security and
>> orderliness, it is only advisable that organisers of such gathering put in
>> place sufficient security measures, including engaging the Police. Indeed,
>> I have noted that some organisers of private functions are already
>> undertaking such security measures. It has become more or less a standard
>> requirement to address such security concerns at private functions by
>> involving law and order agencies. This is important so as to ensure that
>> tragic incidents like the one at Kyadondo Rugby Club where dozens of lives
>> were lost in a terror attack in June 2010 do not re-occur in Uganda. ***
>> *
>>
>> .*CONCLUSION.*****
>>
>> 12. It is true that the Constitution under Article 29(1) (d) provides
>> for the right to assemble and demonstrate. However, this right is qualified
>> and not absolute. This means that as an individual seeks to enjoy and
>> exercise this right, they ought to put into consideration the rights of
>> others. As we enjoy our rights, we should not inconvenience or trample on
>> the rights of others. It is the Constitutional duty of the Police to ensure
>> that any one excercising their rights and freedoms does so peacefully and
>> unarmed. Article 43 of the Constitution provides a general limitation to
>> the fundamental and other human rights and freedoms. It provides as
>> follows:-****
>>
>> 13. *43 (1) In the enjoyment of the rights and freedoms prescribed in
>> this Chapter, no person shall prejudice the fundamental or other human
>> rights and freedoms of others or the public interest. *Therefore, POMB
>> forms part of the legal framework in which this Constitutional provision is
>> operationisable, in as far as public gatherings are concerned. ****
>>
>> 14. We have a separate document with the specific legal provisions for
>> the issues I have elaborated here. Copies of that document are available
>> for you to review further and internalize. I thank you so much for
>> listening to me.****
>>
>> Hon. ( Amb) James Baba****
>>
>> *MINISTER OF STATE FOR INTERNAL AFFAIRS*****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Judith Nabakooba <nab...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android****
>>
>> ** **
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *Emma Were Tinka <e...@mediacentre.go.ug>;
>> *To: *<journali...@mediacentre.go.ug>;
>> *Subject: *Statement on Public Order Management Bill
>> *Sent: *Fri, Aug 16, 2013 9:54:24 AM ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dear all,****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Please find attached a statement issued at Media Centre by the State
>> Minister for Internal Affairs, Hon. James Baba on POMB for your use and
>> reference****
>>
>> ****
>>
>> Emma.****
>>
>> ****
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> -- ****
>>
>> *Abbey Kibirige Semuwemba*****
>>
>> Stalk my blog at: http://semuwemba.com/****
>>
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>>
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>> and balance for one another. It is within the court’s duty to ensure that
>> power is never condense[d] into a single branch of government."** -
>> Judge Anna Diggs Taylor *****
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