George Okello There are points in an argument where you stop and go for the basic facts. Do not challenge Bobby Musoke for an absolute death certificate because each and everything you will get and see will be a forgery. So we slow down and forget all documentation but go for simple basic things we can prove even without documentation. In all years I have been a Muganda, when a Muganda man dies there has to be a person that found him dead. So and so has died in his house, the next question is who found him? And that is a very fundamental question for several reasons, we as Baganda hold a right to every man to die respectfully, thus we sit on that sick person when his eyes drop in we bring them back, when he dies and his jaw drops we tie it. As much as Bobby Musoke has all detailed information about the death of Ssekabaka Mutesa, he does not have a record of who actually found him dead. Mengo does not have it and no one has ever listed that name.
Sir Edward Mutesa has died in his apartment in London. That is where this sentence ends, there is no ....he was found by so and so dead. And the reason is very simple, as a man that lived a loner life in a city busy as London, had no friends no wife and no friend, he died alone in that house, and no one knows exactly how many days he remained in that apartment dead. Who found him? His fellow drunkards, this man was known as a party boy, so at a certain point after his white buddies sobered up God knows after how many days, they remembered to check on him. They found him dead. And as you and I know the danger of drinking, Mutesa actually died of thirst. Yafa nkalamata. For although alcohol poisons your blood work but sucks water fluid out of your body and you thirst up bad. It is very possible that he tried to reach a water tap to no avail of strength to reach it. And we see this many times in diaspora. So and so died on his door when trying to reach out side for help, and we never knew he is dead for 15 days. A land Lord shows up for a rent check and he does not see you and he breaks into the house, but these days there is online banking you can remain there for a month. If Ssekabaka Mutesa did not die on alcohol poisoning, who actually saw him dead and reported him? EM On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy" Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko" -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Okello Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 12:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: {UAH} Kabaka Mutesa's death Certificate. Allan, I have seen a copy of this death certificate before, I think I will take time off and go to Southwark Town Hall in Peckham to get a copy for myself. Right now, I am just about 30 minutes away from Peckham by bus- a walking distance in fact if it was not too cold. The problem for me is that Bobby Musoke has always insisted this death certificate is a forgery, but has not then given any cause of death himself. His theory that this is a forgery is very far fetched. But to totally kick this continuing allegation to bed, why has Mengo not released the actual death certificate then? I have asked Bobby Musoke several times, a request he has stubbornly refused to accede to. Yet it would be be very simple to do one of three things: 1. Produce the original death certificate or copy thereof to disprove the forgery. If the one that was issued at death is now lost or defaced, they can get a duplicate copy at the registry. I dont see why this should be difficult, given the controversy sorrounding this death. 2. Produce actual evidence that the Kabaka was poisoned. And if in fact he was poisoned, then ask questions as to why the coroner did not find evidence of poisoning except only evidence of chronic alcohol abuse leading to alcoholic poisoning as being the cause of death. Was the coroner therefore engaged in a conspiracy to hide the actual cause of the Kabaka's death with the Obote's government? Many people will not believe that the coroner in this case was corrupted or bought. Many peop[le also will not believe that the British government was in collusion with the Obote regime as it is common knowledge at the time that Obote had fallen out with the British over apartheid in South Africa and his Move to the Left policy and were just looking for an opportunity to remove him from office. It seems to me therefore that the baganda should have the Kabaka's body exhumed so that another forensic examination can be carried out on his remains. This was done recently on the remains of the late Yasser Arafat. Bobby Musoke and other baganda royalists don't seem to understand the importance of getting the truth out in this matter. Because it is a terrible crime in morality and in humanity to accuse an innocent woman, Tatu, of murdering a person without giving any evidence. The poor woman was murdered herself for a crime she did not commit. And this is the tragedy of this situation, and here you have people like Bobby Musoke refusing to have it cleared up once and for all. George Okello On 11/25/13, George Okello <[email protected]> wrote: > Bobby Musoke, > > It is very common in the UK for old copies of official documents to be > used until they are finally phased out ie those in existence are used > until they are depeleted. > > George Okello > > On 11/25/13, Bobby Musoke <[email protected]> wrote: >> Naye Afande Allan Barigye, >> >> If the sub district of Bermonsdey was abolished in 1965 why does it >> appear on a death certificate issued in 1969? >> >> Afande Allan dont expect me to waste time inquiring about this forgery. >> >> Did the authorities forget that they had abolished the sub district? >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Allan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Right.So there is nothing fake about the DC? >>> Southwark - Registration district, >>> Sub-district - Bermonsdsey. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Bobby Musoke >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Allan Barigye that information is a public record.Whoever made the >>>> forgery did not know that Bermondsey district was *Abolished* : >>>> 1.4.1965 (to become part of >>>> Southwark<http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/southwark.ht >>>> ml> >>>> registration district >>>> BERMONDSEY REGISTRATION DISTRICT >>>> >>>> - *Registration County* : London. >>>> - *Created* : 1.7.1837 (originally "St. Mary Magdalene Bermondsey"). >>>> - *Abolished* : 1.1.1870 (to become part of St. Olave >>>> Southwark<http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/st%20olave%2 >>>> 0southwark.html> >>>> registration >>>> district). >>>> - *Re-created* : 1.4.1934 (out of St. Olave >>>> (Bermondsey)<http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/st%20olav >>>> e%20bermondsey.html> >>>> registration >>>> district). >>>> - *Abolished* : 1.4.1965 (to become part of >>>> Southwark<http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/southwark.ht >>>> ml> >>>> registration >>>> district). >>>> - *Sub-districts* : Bermondsey, Leather Market, Rotherhithe, St. >>>> James, St. Mary Magdalene. >>>> - *GRO volumes* : IV (183751), 1d (185269), 1d (193446), 5C >>>> (194665). >>>> - *Registers currently held at* : >>>> Southwark<http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/regoff.html#251> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/bermondsey.html >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Allan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mukulu Musoke, >>>>> >>>>> This is a public document. For a small fee you can get a copy. I >>>>> have no reason to doubt them because if it was forgery,diligent >>>>> Baganda would have sued their asses out of business. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Bobby Musoke >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Afande Allan Barigye, >>>>>> >>>>>> Revisit the archives for the various reasons given to show you >>>>>> this is a forgery. >>>>>> Why does the certificate have microsoft fonts and yet it was >>>>>> allegedly written in 1969? >>>>>> >>>>>> Mugezeko line endala. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Allan <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **A positive mind is a courageous mind, without doubts and >>>>>>> fears, using the experience and wisdom to give the best of >>>>>>> him/herself.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * We must dare invent the future! * *The only way of limiting >>>>>>> the usurpation of power by** individuals, the military or >>>>>>> oth**erwise, is to put the people in charge* - *Capt. >>>>>>> Thomas. Sankara {RIP} 1949-1987* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make >>>>>>> violent* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *revolution inevitable*** ****J.F Kennedy* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> **A positive mind is a courageous mind, without doubts and fears, >>>>> using the experience and wisdom to give the best of him/herself.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> * We must dare invent the future! * *The only way of limiting the >>>>> usurpation of power by** individuals, the military or oth**erwise, >>>>> is to put the people in charge* - *Capt. >>>>> Thomas. Sankara {RIP} 1949-1987* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make >>>>> violent* >>>>> >>>>> *revolution inevitable*** ****J.F Kennedy* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> **A positive mind is a courageous mind, without doubts and fears, >>> using the experience and wisdom to give the best of him/herself.* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> * We must dare invent the future! * >>> *The only way of limiting the usurpation of power by** individuals, >>> the military or oth**erwise, is to put the people in charge* - *Capt. >>> Thomas. Sankara {RIP} 1949-1987* >>> >>> >>> **Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent* >>> >>> *revolution inevitable*** ****J.F Kennedy* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > ----- No virus found in this message. 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