Name sake
Taking deceased’s home is a cultural norm that I have suffered with a great
deal, and my debate let alone stand is very public that you know it. I get very
bothered when you link the death of Otunnu’s mother to a private matter when he
is a very public man, and being a national political leader would demand that
if he did not believe that Ugandans must be shipped home he would have stood up
and made such public. Which turns me to Olara Otunnu the man, for it amazes me
why he has been in power this long and he failed rather forgot/took an oops to
the return of the body of his father to Uganda. Why did he decide to leave his
father in the London grave when he is Uganda and with such authority? And again
record must show that his mother is being buried in UK for the husband was also
buried in UK. But when you turn around to think about it critically, Olara
Otunnu is not a Ugandan and has absolutely no interest to Uganda, for the
last time I checked he owned no property in Uganda but lives with a friend in
Kampala. It becomes very interesting when we have a leader of such a
potentially large political party, but refuse to invest into Uganda by simply
building let alone buying a home, but buries his parents into London.
What is in Uganda that interests Olara Otunnu to make him a good a national
party leader? Just asking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of edward pojim
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 4:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Condolence Message to Dr. Olara-Otunu and Family
Members//Her Will
Mr. Mulindwa;
Obviously, you have invested way too much resources on this issue than I
thought necessary.
Bereaved families seek help from well-wishers, but no one is compelled to
donate in cash or kind to help a family ship their dead ones home.
It's entirely voluntary; so, whether you are expressing frustrations here
because you feel overwhelmed with such requests, or you simply want "a one-size
fits" all cultural norm that everyone should follow, is entirely your call.
Among the Luos - and the Otunnus are Luos - the tradition calls for our dead
ones, especially the old ones, to be laid to rest back home.
In Kenya, if you recall, there was the famous case of SM Otieno, whose widow,
Wambui, a Kikuyu, lost a bitter legal fight against Otieno's Omira Kager clan,
to have his body buried in Alego.
Still in Kenya, there was also the case of former Minister, Peter Okondo, a
Samia, who left a Will that be be creamated, something that was unheard of in
both Samia and any other Bantu cultures!
In August 2012, my wife's maternal uncle, a professor at New York University,
passed away. To the family's utter shock, he had instructed his wife, in a
Will, to bury him in New York!
When his own mother, back in Kisumu, was told this, she collapsed. This man's
other brothers - they are four in US - accepted his wish and buried him
accordingly.
President Amin's remains are still in Saudi Arabia.
My friend, if you want to be buried in Uganda, I suggest you put that in
writing right away, for we never know when our time will come. And, God forbid,
if you pass on without a Will, your body might be the property of your city
council.
Pojim
From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: {UAH} Condolence Message to Dr. Olara-Otunu and Family
Members//Her Will
Name sake
You cannot build a society with a fundamental principle of burying all dead
into Uganda, a time when any one dies and announcements after announcements go
by requesting for funds donation to ship bodies home due to the cultural
importance of Ugandans being buried home, you get a society that builds a
single fundamental national debate on Uganda government allowing Ugandans in
diaspora to obtain multi citizenship so that we are able to ship our dead’s
easily, then turn around and throw a death of a mother of a major political
party leader to “death is a family issues”. If that was the belief of Ugandans
then we never needed to pump up multiculturalism. We never needed to raise
funds to ship bodies home daily. But we should have never turned EM into a
monster for he pleads to wonder why and how does it become his business to
raise funds to ship dead people home. No you simply can’t have it both ways
sir. But most importantly if you are a political party leader in Uganda, and
you do not believe that all Ugandans must be buried at home, you stand up and
join the EM’s call of why do we spend on our dead’s that much. When Olara Otunu
stands up and buries his own mother into London today, it surely makes one
wonder what became the difficulty to ship her to Mucwiini when Konny was
eliminated from The North. Probably he is waiting for Obote 3 to feel safe to
bury her in Mucwiini !!!! Edward Pojim then it becomes very interesting, for
man that defined the overthrow of Obote’ s government as a fundamental
opportunity for Uganda, to see that he is burying his mother in diaspora which
Otunnu would have never done if AMO was in power.
Strange how Olara Otunnu has just decided to become anti-Ca Galctica.
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of edward pojim
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 3:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Condolence Message to Dr. Olara-Otunu and Family
Members//Her Will
Mr.Mulindwa and folks;
Why is the final resting place of Otunnu's mother a matter of concern here?
Suppose Mama Amato had left a Will instructing that she buried in London,
should her family then defy her Will?
Matters of marriage and death are family issues. We should not expect any
family, include the Otunnus', to conduct their burial or marriage affairs
according to our wishes, just as I don't expect anyone here or elsewhere to
tell me how to manage my family affairs.
Pojim
From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:13 PM
Subject: RE: {UAH} Condolence Message to Dr. Olara-Otunu and Family Members
It is safer for Otunnu to be in uganda than the carcass ofhis mother. Go
figure.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Mugerwa
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 10:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Condolence Message to Dr. Olara-Otunu andm Family Members
Why bury her in exile? Is it still unsafe to bring her body home where the
orphan is an active politician? Also burying people at the church is not
African culture. The practice was started as a solution for burying dead
foreign religious missionaries. For it was kind of strange to accommodate
them on the ancestral burial grounds where they were not family members.
Paul Mugerwa
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 3:42 AM PST Rajab Ali wrote:
>"As Muslims do to Mecca?" The two can only contrast.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On 31 Dec 2013, at 08:59, Muto-ono P'Lajur <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I wish to sincerely express my condolences to all the family members of
Baba Yusto Otunu (RIP) at this time when you mourn your dear mother,who was
forced to pass on in exile and where you intend to make her rest besides her
husband so that the two should rest together in death.
>> However, I wish to advise and propose that you don't make them rest there
permanently in exile. You should rather mark their as their temporary
resting place. You should plan to exhume their bodies and bring the home to
allow them rest together with Archbishop Janani Luwum at the Anglican church
it Mucwini,in Kitgum district.
>> It was at this church that he began mission of serving the Lord Jesus
Christ and I was reliably informed that Luwum was one of his first recruit.
>> Lastly, his followers here in Uganda cannot afford to pay annual
pilgrimage to London to celebrate his life while singing their anthem
-"Wilobo Kulu upak Lalar" as Moslems do to Mecca.
>> Once again, accept my condolences and may the Lord's Holy Spirit guide
and comfort you all at this most trying moment.
>> John Muto-Ono p'Lajur
>> Gulu
>> [email protected]
>> 0256775708910
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