Jim Muwanga
Kindly don't go into that thread for it is wallow. The reason you hear so
much about the 9,000 is because the then Baganda negotiated very badly
handing the central government everything they had, look who handed the
government River Nile waters for free? It was Baganda, in all those
negotiations what they were after was power and a gun to murder Banyoro and
Banyala and all non Baganda. The negotiation was based solely on violence
and how can you make me more violent. In all negotiations that were made
whether in London or in Uganda tell me one thing that was negotiated for the
goodness of Buganda. And I need only one. And why? Baganda never hard
nationalism, they were ignorant and never cared about the future of our
region. You had idiots like Mayanja Nkangi with so much powers when they
never had a clue where the political isle was. Look at that man today,
looking worse than he will ever look when he is in a God damn casket, what
has he done for Buganda? What is it you see in Buganda and you bow down for
thank God that created the Mayanja Nkangi crap? It is the very same
mentality Ssabassajja Mutebi handed Luwero to Rwandese, for when you look
closely actually out of the dead people in Luwero, Paul Kagame achieved more
than Ssabassajja, what Ssabassajja has is secret mass graves. Did
Ssabassajja hold any negotiation in protection to Buganda and what Buganda
must get out of the war? No nothing and Nada. And on top of Ssabassajja
losing everything to Rwandese he even threw in the nicker of Getrude Njuba
Juu yake.
Go figure the atrocity of getting born a Muganda. {Ebintu
bya'Buganda munange bwebityo bya'mpunna}
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
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Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:33 AM
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Subject: Re: {UAH} RE: Katikiro in trouble: Forget the 9,000 sq miles-
museveni
Some one said stolen things do not bring good luck.
On 1/17/14, Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Akenda was given to district land boards and with the 2005
> constitutional amendment, Buganda land board and district land bords
> will administer it together unfortunately, there is no Buganda Land
> Board in accordance with the constitution.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Yahoo! Merber Service. <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>
>> To the best of my knowledge, unless I'm severely mistaken, this land
>> ( the 9000 sq miles ) was handed to Mmengo when Uganda attained
>> internal self-rule under Benedicto Kiwanuka's DP Government and was
>> thus supposed to be administered by Buganda in the logic of a
>> customary entity, etc... I think Mmengo's claims are justified. What
>> now remains is for Government to work out this question in a way to
>> enlighten on a feasible solution that would not leave a side totally
>> offended and disappointed over something which was formally handed
>> back to them as the true righteous owner. It was a big mistake for
>> those administrations to encourage mere district
>> councils, who were unelected, to engage in this affair without
>> involving
>> to an extent persons representing
>> an aspect of Ganda customary entity. These district administrations
>> are the ones who have messed up with everything! It's the work of any
>> nationalist leader or government to correct what appears to be a
>> colonial mistake, which at this stage was thrown in limbo when the
>> land was handed back to a legal owner, that's Buganda. The Govt
>> should spot this land, accept proposals and work out a solution to
>> satisfy Mmengo, the rightful claimant. Failure to do so will always
>> stand as a real political burden for any future national Government.
>> It's now the real time to say what is left of that land after
>> deducing this and that from the original chunk and what should be
>> done about it : a concorded solution between Mmengo and the
>> Government!
>> Uganda and Buganda should not simply forget the 9000 sq miles. There
>> should be a mature patriotic debate on the question. The Katikkiro
>> should be listened to and not threatened or thrown in trouble. What
>> he is doing is what any person of his standing anywhere in the land
>> would now be doing if confronted with an issue of this dimension.
>> And the Buganda Parliamentary caucus should stand very firm on this
>> issue!
>> President Museveni has promised to visit all Buganda explaining this
>> question! Good! On condition such a visit is carried out after an
>> agreement on the question has been worked out with Mmengo. Without
>> that any further central government will have to be confronted with a
>> sensibly stiff recurring issue on its agenda! Museveni is not the
>> solution but part of an engagement for a lasting solution tacitly
>> engineered by the all those concerned....!
>>
>> G.H.K.
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>>
>> *De :* Jessica Nakawombe <[email protected]> *À :* Ugandans at Heart
>> <[email protected]>
>> *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 17 janvier 2014 0h43 *Objet :* {UAH} RE:
>> Katikiro in trouble: Forget the 9,000 sq miles- museveni
>>
>> Historical and Political Analysts, what is the position in 2014?
>>
>>
>> Rev. Jessica
>>
>> *Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous.* *Do not be
>> afraid; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you
>> wherever you go. (Joshua 1:9)*
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* willy kituuka <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:01 AM
>> *Subject:* Katikiro in trouble: Forget the 9,000 sq miles- museveni
>>
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>> Forget the 9,000 sq miles, Museveni tells Buganda *By Ssemujju
>> Ibrahim
>> Nganda*
>> WEEKLY OBSERVER
>> President Museveni has described as "nonsense" and "idle talk"
>> demands by the Buganda Kingdom to have the administration of 9,000
>> square miles of land entrusted in Mengo.
>> Museveni made the remarks, the perhaps the fiercest since the
>> standoff with Buganda over the land bill started, while addressing
>> the NRM Parliament Caucus at the Statistics House in Kampala, on Monday.
>> The main item on the agenda of this particular caucus meeting was the
>> Local Government Service Tax that is meant to replace the abolished
>> Graduated Tax.
>> In fact, the meeting began with a presentation on the proposed tax by
>> the chairperson of the parliamentary Local Government Committee,
>> George William Wopuwa, MP for Bubulo East.
>> The Minister of State for Local Government, Hope Mwesigye Ruhindi,
>> Kabale Woman MP, also made a presentation on the tax to be paid
>> mainly by the working class.
>> It was after this that the Minister of State for Lands, Kasirivu
>> Atwooki, made a second presentation on the status of the 9,000Sq
>> miles of land whose administration Buganda is demanding.
>> This presentation was prompted by Lubaga North MP, Beti Olive Kamya
>> (FDC), who posed a question in Parliament recently, asking government
>> to clarify on the status of the 9,000 square miles of land.
>> The government asked for more time before answering the query.
>> In response, the Attorney General, Prof. Khiddu Makubuya, authored a
>> four-page statement titled, 'Ministerial Statement to Parliament on
>> the
>> 9,000 Square Miles'.
>> Because of its controversial nature, the government decided to first
>> present it to the NRM caucus to avoid meeting opposition when it goes
>> to the House.
>> In this statement, Makubuya argues that the 9,000 square miles don't
>> exist. What exist, he says, are 6,807 square metres which are owned
>> by people customarily, and others with land titles.
>> Under colonialism, land in Buganda was divided into three categories;
>> about 1,000 chiefs and other notables were given some 8,000 square
>> miles of this land. The Kabaka was given 350 square miles, while the
>> remaining chunk (crown land) was reserved for the landless and unborn
>> Baganda.
>> At independence, the 9,000 square miles, which includes forests,
>> swamps, wetland, was returned to Buganda Kingdom. It was, however,
>> later taken on by the central government under Apollo Milton Obote and
later Idi Amin.
>> Under Museveni, the 9,000 square miles is being administered by
>> District Land Boards which have the mandate to sell it to the people.
>> After Makubuya's report, Museveni asked to make some comments.
>> A source that attended the meeting said the President appeared to be
>> only interested in commenting on this matter as he did not show much
>> interest in the Local Government Service tax.
>> Visibly angry, the President said that he could not tolerate the
>> demand by Buganda to administer the 9,000 square miles. "This is
>> total nonsense I cannot tolerate. I am also on this so called 9,000
>> square miles of land; I bought my land from Kiwanuka (Kassim) and
>> other people. How would I be regarded?" the President fumed. "I
>> cannot accept this historical mistake, such idle talk."
>> Museveni has about 6000 hectares of land in Kisozi, Mpigi district.
>> Museveni told NRM MPs in particular to stop the cowardice and tell
>> Mengo that it is demanding land that doesn't exist. He said the
>> problems of land in Buganda were created by colonialists who gave
>> chunks of it to collaborating chiefs. This is the "historical
>> mistake" Museveni said he would not accept.
>> Mityana Woman MP, Sylvia Namabidde, told the President that in
>> Buganda the Kabaka's word is final and cannot be questioned.
>> Unimpressed, Museveni retorted that the Kabaka is a human being who
>> also makes mistakes.
>> He urged Baganda MPs not to allow to be blackmailed by Mengo.
>> Among those who spoke thereafter, Prof. Ephraim Kamuntu, the Minister
>> of State for Industry, reportedly concurred with the President that
>> the land row was a result of what he called "these historical fascist
mistakes."
>> The President's latest outburst on land is likely to put more
>> pressure on an already strained relationship between his government
>> and the Buganda leadership. In his December 29, 2007 letter to
>> Museveni signed by the then Katikkiro, Emmanuel Sendawula, Kabaka
>> Ronald Mutebi laid claim to the said
>> 9,000 square miles.
>> "Government should immediately and unconditionally return all of
>> Buganda's expropriated property including the 9,000 square miles,
>> 1,500 square miles of forest and wetland, 160 square miles of county
>> and sub-county headquarters ..."
>> Brushing the resistance he has encountered, Museveni told NRM MPs
>> that enacting the Land (Amendment) Bill 2007 is a historical
>> assignment and duty. He challenged them to decide whether they want
>> to side with the right side during this historical moment or the
>> wrong side and be dumped in the dung of history.
>> He also suggested that he would not work with any NRM MP who refuses
>> to vote for the controversial bill. "I began with the historical
>> fighters in Kyankwanzi and I will go to every parish and village in
>> Buganda to explain this matter," Museveni told the caucus.
>> This was the fourth time the President was meeting the NRM caucus
>> over the bill. The first meeting took place from October 24 - 26
>> again at Statistics House in Kampala. In between, two other meetings
>> were held. Museveni also separately met all Buganda MPs at State
>> House Entebbe recently.
>> [email protected]
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