Akim Odong
I do not think that this is the problem I think the single largest problem
in the people singing Federalism is that they all use fake names. That is a
sign in the entire Federalism discussion especially to critical thinkers.
Federalism remains the single largest topic discussed in Uganda forums when
people have a real fear to self-identify publicly.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of akim odong
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: B.Kamya_Re: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals///
WBK;
If it is funding UFA wants to produce pamphlets say so.
Yes I admit funding UFA is a problem; so does the rest of the opposition
parties. The NRM is ofcourse using public funds.
Some wrote to me privately to ridicule my public works idea of employing at
least 20 youths from the 1026 counties to do PWD and related work.
The problem is you're building a house inside house. You're beginning with
the floor, furnishing etc instead of the foundation (federalism) then the
wall (manifesto) and finally the roof (national programmes).
The peasants are waiting for ideas on pretty much any issue.
The peasants have idea of what is good for them but they are oppressed and
cowered to vote for NRM. Unlike you, they have no choice of fleeing furnace
and you are to abandon them. I also have no intention to come back to Uganda
I support Ms. Beti Kamya on federalism but I am, and will remain a member
of the Democratic Party You cannot have it both ways WBK, either you're
with DP or UFA that is the nature of politics. We all know DP does not
support federal ideas so how do you compromise that?
I am being pragmatic.
No you're not! Because you are not committed to politics but to ideas.
WBK, you're tacitly enabling M7 to rule Uganda for as long as he is still
alive, because you're a man of ideas but an armchair contributor. Politics
in Uganda does not need mere ideas but practical contribution, putting your
money where your mouth is in order to back your ideas. Your shifting
allegiance to a ready made country, is like one who runs away from his house
whenever it rains, to the neighbours because his roof is leaking!
I would like to implore you to reconsider your pragmatism, your allegiance
and responsibility as a Ugandan. Your commitment to change, your support for
federalism and your involvement. Without lifting a hand, ideas does not
materialise. That is why Betty only did not only harbour the idea of
federalism but went ahead and formed a party. That is what i call
pragmatism! UFA needs your support more than DP needs you. Because even in a
federated Uganda DP, UPC, NRM etc will still operate as a parties, but we
need federalism first in order for the parties to enjoy the freedom to
operate and function.
Akim
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:19 PM, WB <[email protected]> wrote:
Mr. Akim:
I have never procrastinated on the federal question. If it is funding UFA
wants to produce pamphlets say so.
You are wrong to assume that everybody has ideas. No. I am telling you
that the opposition in Uganda is short on ideas. If it did they would have
made headway. The peasants are waiting to hear how the opposition will fix
USE/UPE to deliver. And both can be fixed. But what do some of the
opposition say? They would end USE/UPE. The peasants are waiting for ideas
on poverty/unemployment. What is the opposition saying? Nothing.
Some wrote to me privately to ridicule my public works idea of employing at
least 20 youths from the 1026 counties to do PWD and related work. The
peasants are waiting for ideas on pretty much any issue. But no credible
ideas are forthcoming. So do not assume that everyone has ideas. They may
have wicked ones.
The opposition should tell Ugandans their ideas on the biggest elephant of
all: the population crisis. The speaker hinted about it but nothing much may
happen. The opposition should be bold and shame Ugandans with the truth
which is that most of their problems start from their bedrooms. So if they
control the population the level of misery will diminish. True dat.
Actually even Uganda's per capita GDP and for that matter anything measured
in per capita terms will increase. But the opposition dare not tell the
obvious. This would suggest that both NRM and the opposition are in cahoots,
okay, conspiracy to ensure that our people live in more misery. After all
who wants to see better off folks with voice to make demands on their
leaders. The conspiracy is there for those who care to see.
I support Ms. Beti Kamya on federalism, but I am, and will remain a member
of the Democratic Party. I am being pragmatic. I support a good idea or
cause when I see one.
I also have no intention to come back to Uganda so you will have to do with
support in the form of ideas. I know you believe anyone can give ideas, but
that shall remain my contribution.
And Ms. Kamya should tell Ugandans that the power to remove their elected
governor shall not be entrusted to the senate ala Kenya which has voted to
dismiss the Embu governor over nnugu. A governor shall only be recalled by
the voters period. This should be part of the Q & A.
WBK
_____
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:44:07 +0000
Subject: Re: B.Kamya_Re: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals///
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
WBK;
If its a matter of ideas, everybody has got ideas of being the next Bill
Gates or even Obama, the issue is implementation of those ideas. Its right
that you suggest Betty Kamya should produce a Q&A booklets/pamphlets on
federalism but this cost money and its from people like you and me that sort
of monies should come. Yes UFA does need ideas but importantly, it needs
drivers, mechanics, turnboys etc to make it move.
I hope you will soon commit yourself not only to lip service but also
practical service. I don't how much you're involved with Betty but i suggest
if you want to get on board UFA contact her or myself so that you stop
dangling with one leg on the fence. Uganda needs decisiveness and no
procrastination especially, from the elites like yourself and most UAH
members. We need to get involved and not abandon it to the vultures and the
EMs, who have sworn allegiance elsewhere and never to look back.
Look forward to registering you as a flag bearer.
Akim
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:56 PM, WB <[email protected]> wrote:
Mr. Akim:
The best some of us can do now is advance ideas. That I have done fairly
well. In politics ideas matter because they are like fufu.
So what UFA needs is a simple pocket book in plain language in the form of Q
& A in all languages on the basics of federalism. It must be factual to a
fault and limited to about 10 or 15 questions.
Right now Ms. Kamya is doing great job of packing federalism to the masses
in Uganda. I have pleaded with the opposition to pick a few ideas and run
with those but wapi. That is sad because there are so many great issues that
should appeal to the suffering masses in Uganda.
Do not get me wrong. Electoral reform is an issue whose time is right but is
it the idea to capture the imagination of the masses in Kagadi, Kamonkoli,
Kisoko, Serere, Ssingo, Kako, Dokolo, Aswa, Ibanda, Budadiri, Kisoro or the
proverbial Kidera?
I simply do not understand why the opposition is challenged to articulate
ideas when there are so many hot ideas to capture the imagination of the
peasant. Yes talk about governance but personalize it to the peasant. Let
the peasant say I get it. Let her say this hit me really hard.
The other group I am really disappointed with are the women MPs and
activists. Elite to the core so they have done absolutely nothing to improve
the plight of rural women. Would the women of Uganda miss the women MPs if
they were to be done away with as a marginalized category? I doubt it. The
women MPs are silent about making UPE/USE mandatory and hitting several
birds. But I know why. Yes it is a bit unfair but this is why: if you go to
the homes of elite women, they have domestic servants as young as may be 8
or ten toiling g away in terrible working conditions. They work 14 hours
shifts with very little pay. What one single idea have women MPs pushed to
advance the welfare of poor women? Can anyone name one thing for me please?
But I am hopefully that one day the women of Uganda will rise up and say
enough. Enough about all forms of oppression including sexism from fellow
women. Oh yes women too can be sexist.
You see the women of our generation are sort of no more or just not
interested in politics so I know no one kabisa from our generation. Yes the
Amin generation. The few I know are civil servants and a few academics and
have no interest in politics or anything apart from their work (read pay
check) and children and may be now grand kids.
And yes federalism must speak to the ideals and aspirations of poor women
and men. For instance how would their welfare change under federalism? What
is in it for them? Everything should be personalized.
So as you and Ms. Beti Kamya mobilize Ugandans, also take the time for Q & A
sessions to get questions that are on their minds. Some are nervous because
of ignorance so reassure them. Clear things up for them and confront the
misinformation head on.
WBK
_____
From: [email protected]
Subject: RE: B.Kamya_Re: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals///
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 02:27:45 -0800
To: [email protected]
The corruption and thievery do come out of poor checks and balances. When
the system is set up properly, of course there would be some loopholes but;
in the long run, the thieves could be caught. Just like in the US, the
system catches up with you as you can see the mayor of New Orleans, Ray
Nagin or the former Governor of VA. Somehow, someway, sometime; the system
will catch up with you or you'll catch up with the system and either way,
you'd be forced to pay dearly. Yes, some people can get away with the
thievery but in general, the checks and balances are in place for self
correction.
Muzzukulu wa Ndugwa
_____
From: WB
Sent: 2/14/2014 7:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: B.Kamya_Re: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals///
Ms. Beti Kamya:
Keep on doing what you are doing, which is educating Ugandans about the
merits of federalism. But also be honest with them that like any system
there may be some cons such as decentralized corruption and thieving as seen
in Kenyan counties, but overall the merits of federalism overweigh the cons.
[The entire original message is not included.]
_____
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3705/6594 - Release Date: 02/14/14
_______________________________________________
Ugandanet mailing list
[email protected]
http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/ugandanet
UGANDANET is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/
All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including
attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way.
---------------------------------------
