On record
The present Uganda constitution was a result of a national referendum. That
is the constitution Betty Kamya wants to throw out through another national
constitutional referendum.
Just on record.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of beti kamya
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 5:46 AM
To: Abbey Semuwemba
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: B.Kamya_Re: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals///
Nyar,
The issue I raised here is whether it is useful for the Opposition in
Parliament and civil society to "DEMAND" for electoral reforms, the way
they did in MUK, or whether it would not be better for them to mobilize all
Ugandan voters to call for a national referendum to amend the constitution
of Uganda, particularly on matters of elections' management? The opposition
in parliament have opted for the "DEMAND" option, John Nsubuga proposes Plan
B (but does not give details), while I propose the referendum option. Your
answer is clearly anti referendum. Does that mean you support the "DEMAND"
option, in which case I ask again :- To whom were the Oppositions' "DEMANDS
for electoral reforms" addressed? To M7 to legislate himself out of power?
to the EC to legislate themselves out of jobs? or to Parliament which has
267 NRM MPs who already endorsed M7 for 2016? To whom were the "DEMANDS"
launched by the Opposition in Parliament addressed? What is your choice
Nyar?
You rubbish my reference to the existing laws in regard to my proposal of a
referendum, but don't you know that even the MPs "DEMANDS for electoral
reforms.." will also have to go thru the existing laws?
Are you therefore suggesting that because M7 ignored the law and put the
Lord Mayor where he is today, therefore no resistance should be put up vs M7
excesses using existing laws?You are making credible contributions but I
think you need to re-orient them in line with the issue at hand.
Take care,
Beti Kamya
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:27 AM, Abbey Semuwemba <[email protected]>
wrote:
WBK,
Beti seems to be a good mobilisor, organisor and very determined. She should
have been handy in the current crisis in FDC. Besigye should make peace with
her!
Abbey
Sent from my iPad
On 14 Feb 2014, at 07:25, WB <[email protected]> wrote:
Ms. Beti Kamya:
Keep on doing what you are doing, which is educating Ugandans about the
merits of federalism. But also be honest with them that like any system
there may be some cons such as decentralized corruption and thieving as seen
in Kenyan counties, but overall the merits of federalism overweigh the cons.
Your message is definitely getting through and the best thing going for
federalism is actually YKM! So it was music to read the minions at
Kyankwanzi, ok, NRM MPs falling over each other to nominate YKM. The more
YKM stays in power the better for the federal question. This is an example
of proof by contradiction. YKM may not want to hear about federalism, but he
is actually the best thing going for federalism. So let the opposition in
parliament DEMAND electoral reform while also fighting about juicy shadow
cabinet slots.
Keep focused on what you are doing like a laser beam.
WBK
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 16:12:09 +0100
Subject: B.Kamya_Re: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals///
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Kamya,
Thank you for trying but please tell us how you are going to stop the mass
printing of paper money, which by thr way can only be carried in sacks? How
many years have you people not been talking about the so-called sensitizing
of the empty-bellied peasants - and almost each time only when elections are
near?
Talking of existing law, my foot! How come Lukwago is where he is today. If
my chicken brain is to help me, i remember there has ever been the useless
refurendum - how did it end?
Try something else next time, if any...Nyar
On 13 Feb 2014 18:19, "beti kamya" <[email protected]> wrote:
CORRECTION - It is not the "Opposition" that launched the demand for
electoral reforms but "The Opposition in Parliament". Uganda Federal
Alliance (UFA), Peoples' Development Party (PDP), Peoples' Progressive Party
(PDP) and many others were not represented.
If UFA had been consulted, we would have advised the Opposition in
Parliament and civil society that "demanding" will NOT be useful!
"Demand" of who?
- The President, to help legislate himself out of the power he loves so
much?
- The Electoral Commission to help legislate themselves out of jobs?
- The 9th Parliament which has 267 NRM MPs who just endorsed
President Museveni sole NRM presidential contestant in their
parliamentary caucus in Kyankwanzi VS 54 Opposition MPs?
I can predict without fear of contradiction that their demands will at worst
be ignored. At best, if they table them before Parliament, a few concessions
will be made, for Govt to look good, but the important ones will be
defeated.
There are only two fora under the constitution of Uganda where laws are made
(i) Parliament (ii) referenda. The act of "demanding for electoral reforms"
is not provided for in the constitution of Uganda and even when 10,000,000
Ugandan "demand", it has no force of law and is not binding on anybody,
least of all the President. So why would the Opposition in Parliament and
Civil Society take us to MUK to "launch demands..." which will be ignored
because demanding for electoral reforms is not backed by law, when we can
demand for a referendum as provided for under Article 255(1) of the
constitution and mobilize voters to make decisions that "are binding on all
persons, organs and institutions of the State of Uganda..." as provided for
under Article 255 (3)?
UFA is already collecting signatures of registered voters under Article
255(1) to demand that the EC organises a referendum to amend the
Constitution of Uganda to among other things, overhaul the manner of
constituting the Electoral Commission, appointment of the IGP, Governor of
Bank of Uganda, Chief Justice and Judiciary. We have so far collected over
900,000 signatures of registered voters who have suppoterd the petition for
a national referendum to amend the constitution. It includes all the
electoral reforms proposed at the launch
Plan B should be to support the referendum effort where Ugandan voters will
decide directly on all the obnoxious items in the constitution. Neither
Parliament, the EC or the Executive can or will do it for us, we have to do
it ourselves and the referendum is the only channel that will have the force
of law
Beti Kamya - President, Uganda Federal Alliance
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 6:05 PM, John Nsubuga <[email protected]> wrote:
Comrades,
The opposition is way too fragmented to adhere to these demands. As usual,
Museveni is not going to yield to the demand for electoral reforms,
therefore, what we want to read about is:...what else does the opposition
has in store? In otherwords, "plan B"
Is it going to be business as usual, giving him company "AGAIN" to state
house?
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From: Abbey Semuwemba <[email protected]>;
To: <[email protected]>;
Cc: Kale Kayihura <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; beti
kamya <[email protected]>;
Subject: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals
Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 10:55:47 PM
Read the attachments please. Thank you.
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
From: Okello Lucima <[email protected]>
Date: 13 February 2014 01:13:07 PST
To: Abbey
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is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if a
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of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans
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never send to know for
whom the bell tolls; It
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