Betty Kamya is a feudalist only failing to achieve her goals for he uses a 
wrong title of Federalist.

 

EM

On the 49th Parallel          

 

            Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
           Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ocaya Mike pOcure
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: SV: B.Kamya_Re: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals///

 

Ogwapiti and fellow Ugandans,

FIRST, for your information Mrs. OGWAL did not keep the UPC party but UPC party 
was kept by its own ideological input since it began the journey of Uganda 
nationalism principle.

SECOND, the UPC as political party embarked on the politics of building the 
Ugandan State with every required infrastructures which Mrs. OGWAL and M7 had 
continued to destroy due to their politics of - Individual Merits - aka for 
myself doctrine! This is where (she) Mrs. OGWAL belongs!

THIRD, for Miss KAMYA, she knows where she belongs which is not Constitutional 
Federalism Uganda, but a certain thing call “federo,” which is just a tribal 
entity as according to such native interpretation!

For years back, I have been in Buganda FedNet, there I found that the infamous 
“federo” does not support or welcome BAKOPIS! 

LET THE FACT be told, in other words even during the CA, days several members 
of the infamous “federo” led by Prof Apolo Nsbambi and a certain Prince voted 
against the Constitutional Federalism Uganda! I think Miss KAMYA can recall 
such episode!

 

Ocaya pOcure - From Pader District Acoliland!  

 

 

Den söndag, 16 februari 2014 18:28 skrev akim odong <[email protected]>:

George Okello;

 

The paragraph here quoted, Ideology, along with discourse, are the two central 
concepts in

understanding the cultural transmission of ideas, values, and
assumptions. A key point of contention in this developing concept is
how much ordinary people can resist, negotiate, or refashion ideology
on their own, or whether only cultural critics armed with analytical
tools for unmasking the normalizing functions of ideology and
discourse can successfully play this role.

explains everything i need to believe in what i have all along labelled the 
white conscience, to which i find nothing new, rather than that it was put in 
print well before my time. And George, i am not alone in my criticism just read 
what others say. 


The concept of ideology as formulated by Marx and Engels has been
critiqued and expanded to adapt to the changes our societies underwent
since 19th century. The most obvious and fundamental critique would be
that we have moved in most Western societies from an industrial
economy to a service economy and thus the assumption of a social
division into a ruling class that controls the means of production and
a working class that is forced to sell its labor in order to survive
no longer applies. Cultural critics have suggested alternative
categories other than social class in which hierarchical power
structures are also at work. The more obvious of those are gender,
race, ethnicity, and nationality. In those contexts, ideology would
work analogous to Marx' and Engels' model to maintain the existing

power relations of, for example, a patriarchal society.  They too clearly think 
times have changed, society have changed, Karl Max did not even envisage that 
George Okello will one day be educated, leave his home land and work with a 
white man in the same office sharing the same desk. A one time peasant class to 
a middle class in less than one generation. 

I think you need to re-calibrate you thoughts, else you will end up being a 
prisoner in person and in thought. 

George Okello as far Betty Kamya is concerned, federalism is a system of 
governance and the ideology she was referring to, is that which the other 
parties in Uganda ascribe to cannot be supported under the system she is 
advocating for, such as the Marxist idea of the NRM. 

 

Akim

 

On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:59 PM, George Okello <[email protected]> wrote:

Beti Kamya,

I note here with interest your claim that  differences with the other
political actors on the question of Federalism is based on IDEOLOGY. I
dont want to sound geeky here, but it seems to me you don't understand
the term ideology. When I have the time this week, I will give you a
simple explanation or Idiot's Guide. Please read the other materials I
have posted to your comfrere Mr Akim Odong.

George Okello


On 2/16/14, Hannah Ogwapiti <[email protected]> wrote:
> Betty Kamya -kept Reform Agenda which became FDC alive when Besigye was in
> exile!Cecilia Ogwal Kept UPC alive in the wilderness while Obote was in
> exile!
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:56 PM, WB <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Mr. Akim:
>>
>>  The best some of us can do now is advance ideas. That I have done fairly
>> well.  In politics ideas matter because they are like fufu.
>>
>> So what UFA needs is a simple pocket book in plain language in the form
>> of
>> Q & A in all languages on the basics of federalism. It must be factual to
>> a
>> fault and limited to about 10 or 15 questions.
>>
>> Right now Ms. Kamya is doing great job of packing federalism to the
>> masses
>> in Uganda. I have pleaded with the opposition to pick a few ideas and run
>> with those but wapi. That is sad because there are so many great issues
>> that should appeal to the suffering masses in Uganda.
>>
>> Do not get me wrong. Electoral reform is an issue whose time is right but
>> is it the idea to capture the imagination of the masses in Kagadi,
>> Kamonkoli, Kisoko, Serere, Ssingo, Kako, Dokolo, Aswa, Ibanda, Budadiri,
>> Kisoro  or the proverbial Kidera?
>>
>>  I simply do not understand why the opposition is challenged to
>> articulate
>> ideas when there are so many hot ideas to capture the imagination of the
>> peasant.  Yes talk about governance but personalize it to the peasant.
>> Let
>> the peasant say I get it. Let her say this hit me really hard.
>>
>> The other group I am really disappointed with are the women MPs and
>> activists. Elite to the core so they have done absolutely nothing to
>> improve the plight of rural women.  Would the women of Uganda miss the
>> women MPs if they were to be done away with as a marginalized category? I
>> doubt it. The women MPs are silent about making UPE/USE mandatory and
>> hitting several birds. But I know why. Yes it is a bit unfair but this is
>> why: if you go to the homes of elite women, they have domestic servants
>> as
>> young as may be 8 or ten toiling g away in terrible working conditions.
>> They work 14 hours shifts with very little pay. What one single idea have
>> women MPs  pushed to advance the welfare of poor women? Can anyone name
>> one
>> thing for me please?
>>
>>  But I am hopefully that one day the women of Uganda will rise up and say
>> enough. Enough about all forms of oppression including sexism from fellow
>> women. Oh yes women too can be sexist.
>>
>> You see the women of our generation are sort of no more or just not
>> interested in politics so I know no one kabisa from our generation. Yes
>> the
>> Amin generation. The few I know are civil servants and a few academics
>> and
>> have no interest in politics or anything apart from their work (read pay
>> check) and children and may be now grand kids.
>>
>>  And yes federalism must speak to the ideals and aspirations of poor
>> women
>> and men. For instance how would their welfare change under federalism?
>> What is in it for them? Everything should be personalized.
>>
>> So as you and Ms. Beti Kamya mobilize Ugandans, also take the time for Q
>> &
>> A sessions to get questions that are on their minds. Some are nervous
>> because of ignorance so reassure them. Clear things up for them and
>> confront the misinformation head on.
>>
>> WBK
>>
>>
>>

>> ------------------------------

>> From: [email protected]
>>
>> Subject: RE: B.Kamya_Re: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals///
>> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 02:27:45 -0800
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>> The corruption and thievery do come out of poor checks and balances. When
>> the system is set up properly, of course there would be some loopholes
>> but;
>> in the long run, the thieves could be caught. Just like in the US, the
>> system catches up with you as you can see the mayor of New Orleans, Ray
>> Nagin or the former Governor of VA. Somehow, someway, sometime; the
>> system
>> will catch up with you or you'll catch up with the system and either way,
>> you'd be forced to pay dearly. Yes, some people can get away with the
>> thievery but in general, the checks and balances are in place for self
>> correction.
>>
>> Muzzukulu wa Ndugwa

>> ------------------------------

>> From: WB
>> Sent: 2/14/2014 7:25
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: B.Kamya_Re: {UAH} THE CALL and Electoral Proposals///
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ms. Beti Kamya:
>>
>>  Keep on doing what you are doing, which is educating Ugandans about the
>> merits of federalism.  But also be honest with them that like any system
>> there may be some cons such as decentralized corruption and thieving as
>> seen in Kenyan counties, but overall the merits of federalism overweigh
>> the
>> cons.
>>
>>
>> [The entire original message is not included.]
>>
>
>
>
> --

> *H.OGWAPITI*
> -----------------------------------------------------
> *"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that  we

> are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic  and

> servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." *
> ---Theodore Roosevelt
>

 

 

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