George Okello
Why do you have UPC members that were murdered in West Nile but you do not
have the massive people in West Nile that were murdered by Acholis? And
George that is as straight question sir.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Okello
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Fwd: SV: SV: {UAH} WHAT ROLE DID MUSEVENI PLAY IN UNDERMINING
THE BINAISA GOVERNMENT?
Comrade Lulua and Comrade Ocaya p'Ocure <mailto:p@Ocure> .
I have got a list of all the UPC members from West Nile who were murdered
by the NRA and remnants of the FUNA and other backwards forces in West Nile.
Gesparo Oda is on my list, but I have not yet discovered who actually
murdered him. My suspicion has always fallen on Moses Ali- who I also have
listed for the murder of at least 10 members of the UPC. I have already
warned them that the time will come when they will be forced to account to
their victims because we will not allow those who murdered UPC members to go
scot free. We are not going to allow that.
George Okello
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Ocaya Mike pOcure <[email protected]> wrote:
Comrade Okumu Opoka,
I agree with you on the DP leaderships in the 1960s. But, I must differ with
you on the music composed by the DP leadership in West Nile region to the
effect that everything which went wrong there was because of UPC and the
late OBOTE (RIP)!
This is the gist of the question by this son of the soil Atolo LULUA was
trying to put it across. To me, I think the likes of Atolo LULUA is not
seeing the animals in their kitchens such as Moses Ali, Onama and others
those used the AMIN regime to commit massive genocide in the whole of
northern Uganda in particular and the whole Uganda.
Those folks, went even in the Churches whereby they had to murder the
Anglican Church Archbishop - May the Soul of St Janan Luwum Rest in Eternal
Peace - Amen!
Thanks to hear from you!
Ocaya pOcure
Den onsdag, 12 mars 2014 22:01 skrev LADO LULUA <[email protected]>:
Mr Okumu ,
Your Statements are quite Straight Correct and perfectly as is known in West
Nile to West Nile People . But there is one thing under the Carpet the
Ugandans don't want to talk of West Nile issue which was in the hands of
Atamva Gaspero Oda and Atamva ( Ladit Ringe who was killed in 1957 ) . On
these informations I will express myself in near future of on West Nile /
Lado issue . Meanwhile get on informed of the topic on West Nile / Lado
which is the Major Political issue between West Nile / Madi and Uganda as a
whole as attached here your early informations . There will be No Peace in
Uganda and West Nile Madi as such , not until the Political Friction over
West Nile / Lado issue is solved in / or on a Truely Political Negotiation
terms to be reached on . It is known , there is a lot of Political pretext
going on this issue since 1961 in Uganda --------- Uganda and West Nile /
Lado were to be given Independences by 1960 / 1961 anyway by Britain .
Gaspero Oda by the then was to have become the First Prime Minister of Lado
and re - establish Relations with the neighbouring Independent Uganda .
Unfortunately as it several times happened Britain blocked the Independence
of Lado in 1961 once again ----- Readers , you will read more in next
issues please .
Lado
Il Mercoledì 12 Marzo 2014 20:26, Chris Opoka-Okumu <[email protected]> ha
scritto:
Mr. Lado and M Laduma,
Far it be for me to impute motives why people crossed from DP to UPC. Mr Oda
was a good friend of my father and I know that he was a committed patriot
and reknowned Ugandan nationalist who genuinely crossed to UPC. After the
liberation war in 1979, he was one of those nationalist invited by Milton
Obote to Dar es Salaam and he went and had fruitful discussions. It was on
his return that he was killed while being taken to his house.
That is not the action of a man who wanted to oppose UPC from within but
that of a real nationalist who was committed to nation building.
COO
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:21 PM, LADO LULUA <[email protected]> wrote:
Point of View : Mr Laduma , for your point of view ,
According to Uganda's Constitution Orders , the next round of Elections to
be held from 1962 was to take place in 1967 but did not take place of the
created and well elaborated of Uganda 1966 crisis . Uganda remained one
Party System as all other Political Parties were banned . The next round of
Elections in Uganda possibly could have been or taken place to be conducted
in 1972 then . Truely No efforts were being advanced to bring in back the
banned Political Parties to participate in Uganda . Uganda had become a
dictactorial of one Party System already under the UPC .
>From West Nile , Gaspero Oda being adviced by his People was encouraged to
review and challenge the UPC within UPC Party for any future Political
changes to be done to suit Uganda and the West Nile Political Situations as
from 1962 , the West Nile issue was pushed under the Carpert by Uganda . The
British never allowed and would never have allowed to have to be raised the
issue of West Nile in the Ugandan Parliament by then . There was still in
1962 up to 1963 the British Officer - 1961 - 1963 : Sir Walter Coutts ;
1961 1962 : ( also Governor-General until 1963 ) , as the Governor General
in command to see to that anyway .
It is true Gaspero Oda did change his mind and was to face UPC authorities
within the UPC from 1972 onwards for this reason as DP in Uganda was a
cancelled issue . Dead Party !
Lado
Il Mercoledì 12 Marzo 2014 17:25, Ronald Okuonzi <[email protected]> ha
scritto:
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From: gaumoy nockrach-laduma <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 04:20:30 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: SV: SV: SV: {UAH} WHAT ROLE DID MUSEVENI PLAY IN UNDERMINING
THE BINAISA GOVERNMENT?
To: "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Lado, Chris Opoka & Ochaya,
Just as a point of information, we seem to be forgetting that some of
the cross over at around that time were basically technical: a means
to be able to stand at the General Election that was due in 1971.
I recall only UPC members or candidates were legible? And they had to
campaign / stand in at least a couple ( or 3) other constituencies?
This led to a whole lot of DPs who fronted as "UPC-abacabac"?
Could this be the case too?
Noc'la gau
"WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US"....noc'la gaumoy.
Den tisdag, 11 mars 2014 23:15 skrev LADO LULUA <[email protected]>:
You are wrong and definately wrong , ask anybody from Arua , some UPC
guys from West Nile who write on this forum too if Oda did not drop DP
to turn to UPC before Amin took over Power in Uganda in Uganda and
infact Atamva Oda even met with Milton Obote and shook hands on
returning to Uganda from Tanzania ? Don't tell me that Atamva Oda
died before Uganda was liberated by UNLA . Second question , if I may
ask ---- Who killed Dr Solomom Asea in Uganda after Uganda was
liberated ----- just asking and for that don't crack your head , I am
only cross - checking anway ?
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>Lado
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>Il Martedì 11 Marzo 2014 21:07, Ocaya Mike pOcure <[email protected]> ha
scritto:
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>Atolo LULUA,
>I think your mind had gone on
leave, because I never heard or read in Uganda Argus when the late ODA
Gasparo
(RIP) crossed to UPC from DP in the late 1960s running to 1971 when the late
Idi Amin took power.
>I think, even the late Latim Alex
(RIP) did not cross from DP to UPC if my memory had not gone for a leave
like
yours! Please try to revise or upgrade your memory citizen Lulua!
>
>Ocaya pOcure
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>Den måndag, 10 mars 2014 22:59 skrev LADO LULUA <[email protected]>:
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>Mr Ocaya , 1979 Oda was still alive and after the day of the liberation of
Kampala , by that time he was at Arua . He was killed afterwards and even
went / travelled to Busenyi with the UPC members from West Nile - Arua to
welcome Obote on his return to Uganda . I am as old as 60 yrs now . You know
Mr Ocaya Gaspero had turned to UPC party before Obote was overthrown in
1971 as DP was by then banned as a Party from 1966 crisis issues in Uganda .
The rest may be History but a Historian is a keen man to find out the truths
underneath for his writings anyway in cross checking facts . Thanks for your
writing lines
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>Lado
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>Il Lunedì 10 Marzo 2014 22:10, Ocaya Mike pOcure <[email protected]> ha
scritto:
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>Citizen LULUA LADO,
>FIRST,if
you are someone who is an elder generation that was born earlier than the
1980s
or the so-called 1986 generations of NRA/M7ism, then I think you are
excused.
>SECOND,for information, the late Oda Gasparo (RIP), the late Latim Alex
(RIP) and the
late Obonyo Gino (RIP) all died before Uganda was liberated from the late
dictator Amin Idi (RIP) in 1979.
>TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT,these late DP leaderships were comrades to my late
uncle OKENY Atwoma Tiberious
(RIP) and they were very strong Ugandan nationalists whose political
interests
were not just village politics - aka - individual merits - or for myself
politics which was introduced by the NRA/M7ism - ala - For Greediness
and Ones Stomach, but not For God And My Country! That
is the very centre for major corruption and self-aggrandisement!
>LASTLY,the thing is, that in the old West Nile, everyone started making
accusation
fingers to the late OBOTE (RIP), but failing to see the enemy from inside
their
own kitchen such Moses Ali and many others who joined hands with the
NRA/M7ism
to divide us the people of the whole old Northern Uganda, which includes
West
Nile!
>I
think, the late Obonyo (RIP), the late Oda (RIP), the late Latim (RIP) were
murdered by the late Amin (RIP) soldiers! Do not forget that both the late
Obonyo and Latim were very strong Acoli DP leaders and if both were not
murdered the likes of Ssemogerere could not have become the DP party leader
for
the 1980 general elections!
>
>Ocaya pOcure - From Pader District
Acoliland!
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>Den måndag, 10 mars 2014 20:59 skrev LADO LULUA <[email protected]>:
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>Mr Rubukui , just asking who killed Gaspero Oda from West Nile on his
return from Busheni when welcoming back to Uganda , Milton Obote ? Many
People in West Nile are questioning still ?
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>Lado
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>Il Lunedì 10 Marzo 2014 20:40, Robukui . <[email protected]> ha scritto:
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>WHAT ROLE DID MUSEVENI PLAY IN UNDERMINING THE BINAISA GOVERNMENT?
>When the NCC returned from Tanzania without President Lule, it convened in
State House to select a new President of Uganda. After lengthy
deliberations, in the first round of voting Prof. Edward Rugumayo the
Chairman of NCC was selected to be the next President. But on techinical
grounds ochestrated by Museveni because he feared a strong leader, a second
round of voting the same night saw Godfrey Binaisa being selected in
absentia as the next President. Museveni in the company of his former GSU
handler, Mukombe Mpambara personally drove to go and pick Godfrey Binaisa
from a Hotel and delivered him to State House.
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>Immediately after Binaisa was swon in as the new president, massive violent
protests broke out in Kampala demanding for the reinstatement of Prof. Lule
(Twagala Lule). Both the Tanzanian Army commanders and Agrey Awori who was
Binaisa's Aide urged the President to give orders for the security forces to
shoot at the rioters but Binaisa outrightly refused. Instead, Museveni who
was the then Minister of Defence went ahead to unleash the army against the
protestors. Consequently the protest was contained but having left several
dead and hundreds injured. Museveni's current brutal suppression of peaceful
dissent should be traced to this incident thus his fear of the people's
power.
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>Binaisa's presidency faced a number of challenges. He had no control of the
security forces. He could not make any decision without consulting
Tanzania's Nyerere but still through the Tanzania's Resident Minister,
Nshekilango. He presided over a goverment split along two major competetors
i.e FRONASA/Museveni and Kikosi Maluun/Obote. His two Aides, Agrey Awori and
Tumusiime Mutebile were spies working for the Obote and Museveni factions.
He iniherited a newly set up communist political and economic structure and
was pursuing capitalist programes of free market, democracy and human
rights. During the OAU sumit in Liberia, he was denied recognition on
grounds that Uganda's independence was questionable owing to its occupation
by the Tanzanian Army.
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>During this time, the military race between Kikosi Maluum and Museveni's
FRONASA was heating up. Unlike Lule, Binaisa realised that real power lay
with 'the men in uniform' and sought to neutralise them. A new wave of
insecurity hit the capital Kampala where there was a series of unexplained
murders of prominient personalities. Due to the proliferation of security
forces at the time and though Kampala was operationaly under Kikosi Maluum,
it was difficult to point a finger at any particular group. Political elites
and proffessionals were targeted and in particular Mulago Hosipital Medical
Doctors. During the same period when Binaisa left to attend the NAM meeting
in Cuba, he left Museveni who was the Minister of Defence as the in-charge
of government affairs. In that short period, three Mulago Hospital employees
were shot dead and shortly after Jack Barlow and Dr. Abuden Abache were
killed. The truth is that it was the work of Museveni's
FRONASA
aimed at discrediting the Kikosi Maluum and weakening the post Amin
government. Museveni had unsuccessfuly argued that Kikosi Maluum
leaves Kampala.
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>Binaisa removed Museveni from the Ministry of Defence to that of Regional
Cooperation. He threatened to disband the Military comission for which
Museveni was the Vice Chairman arguing that it had outlived its purpose. He
urged Tanzania to start withdrawing its troops. He appointed the commander
of Kikosi Maluum, David Oyite Ojok as Ambassador to Aligeria. He also
planned to bring in an African peace keeping force. The Military commission
for which Museveni was the Vice Chairman conspired with the Tanzania army
and government and put Binaisa under detention. The country was now ruled by
the Military Commission with Museveni as the 2nd most powerful man in the
country. Binaisa was only to be released later by Obote during the 2nd UPC
government.
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>INFORMATION IS POWER.
>Posted by Uganda - A Change of Guards! a
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>Robukui
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