Moses Mayanja/Ocen Nekyon
Our leaders in Western countries have fallen into the trap of telling the truth
by accident. They have structured out Russia as a very poor and non-essential
country, and the population here has very sadly bought that story. The fact of
the matter remains that they today have absolutely nothing they can do about
Putin. He is well positioned for he has a well-trained and funded army, his
numbers in Russia are through the roof as compared to any Western leader, but
the fact remains that he remains a man of integrity. If he was not a man of
integrity, these sanctions we are throwing at him daily, Putin can turn around
and collapse many of our economies. If he can slap a disastrous embargo on
Europe it will directly affect us even in North America. And I repeat myself,
if you want to go after him today what you have to do is to put the boots on
the ground in Ukraine. Please let me see all those with balls to go in put up
their hands. He will beat that army hands down. You simply cannot go after his
army when you have lost Libya Iraq Afghanistan Syria and now Hamas has also
become a pain in the behind. Now you really want to go after Russia?
Really !!!!!!
All these things never happened before not for there were no characters to pump
them up, but Washington has been playing a leveled head in foreign policy and
we knew exactly what plan we had and we supported it. Whether that plan was
good or bad but it existed and we supported it. When Washington fails to have a
foreign policy, the world gets upside down. Half the earth is under war or a
threat of war have you ever seen this happening before? Stop to think that
Surface to air missiles were created last night we have been with them all
along but they have been under a very good control which we have lost as well
under this very sad administration.
There is a reason why United States was classified as a super power. It
controlled the safety of our lives than a God damn joke we have today.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Moses Mayanja
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 2:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Pro-Russian rebels agree to hand MH17 black boxes over |
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Namesake,
You got it, Europeans especially Germans cannot mess with Putin in fear that
the knuckle head can shut off their natural gas supply. The Nuke narrative, I
think is weaker than the Natural gas one.
Moses Mayanja
On Jul 22, 2014 6:40 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Namesake;
When you have Nukes and Natural Gas at your disposal, nobody messes with you.
Ocen
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Moses Mayanja
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 21:33
To: [email protected]
Reply To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Pro-Russian rebels agree to hand MH17 black boxes over |
Mail Online
Namesake,
These Russian rebels have got a lot to hide, and without Putin's backing, the
truth will never be got.
Moses Mayanja
On Jul 22, 2014 6:15 PM, "Moses Ocen Nekyon" <[email protected]> wrote:
Ndugu Allan;
I find it ironic that a number of us stated that Ukraine had the 'Black
boxes.'
Why are the Russian backed rebels not allowing anybody onto the plane "crash"
area if they do not have anything to hide?
Ocen
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
From: Allan
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 17:38
To: ug at
Reply To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Pro-Russian rebels agree to hand MH17 black boxes over |
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Ndugu Ocen,
If these powers that be can lie in broad daylight what of the "monkey see
monkey do" of banana republics?
Methinks they met a match in Putin.
Today's social media does them in. You can see how public opinion is tilting
against Israel.
Telling a lie is becoming very expensively embarrassing.
Sent from my LG G2 android smartphone device
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· Pro-Russian rebel commander tells a press conference that MH17's black
boxes are 'under our control'
· Aleksander Borodai said he is willing to hand over the black boxes and MH17
bodies to international investigators
· Ukrainian government claims Russian army massing on the the border
reinforcing rebel forces with new tanks
· An intercepted phone call between rebel forces claims 'Moscow is very
interested in the fate of the boxes'
· UK, U.S. and Australia to raise MH17 with the United Nations Security
Council during tomorrow's session
· International air crash investigators still have not been allowed into the
area over safety fears
· Investigation is further complicated because the area is controlled by
rival pro-Russian rebel factions
· International inspectors have examined bodies in a refrigerated train
carriage nine miles from the crash site
· French president Francois Hollande said Britain and Germany agree joint
approach over Russian response
Pro-Russian rebels today said they have recovered the black boxes from MH17 and
taken them to Donetsk where they will be handed over to international
investigators.
Rebel leader Aleksander Borodai told a press conference in Donetsk: 'Some
items, presumably the black boxes, were found, and they have been delivered to
Donetsk and they are under our control.
'There are no specialists among us who could pinpoint the look of the black
boxes, but we brought to Donetsk some technical items which could be the black
boxes of the airliner.'
However, Ukrainian security officials retorted that Russia has reinforced
rebels with three multiple rocket launchers and four heavy tanks, while massing
troops on the border.
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World leaders want international inspectors to be given free access to the
crash site, but the area is still being patrolled by heavily armed rebel troops
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World leaders want international inspectors to be given free access to the
crash site, but the area is still being patrolled by heavily armed rebel troops
International air crash investigators have remained in Kiev, away from the
warzone while the area is patrolled by forces loyal to Moscow
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International air crash investigators have remained in Kiev, away from the
warzone while the area is patrolled by forces loyal to Moscow [item name=video
id=1135882 style=2 /]
Pro-Kiev authorities today released details of what they claimed to be a
recording of a phone calls from Friday afternoon between a senior rebel
commander and a number of his men at the crash site discussing MH17's black
boxes.
Oleksandr Serhiyovych, commander of the Vostok battalion calls one of his men
and asks whether the black boxes have yet been recovered because 'Moscow asks
where they are'.
Serhiyovych warns that the black boxes must be brought under rebel control and
kept away from international inspectors who were arriving at the scene.
In a second call to another rebel, Serhiyovych said: 'I have a request for you.
It is not my request Our friends from high above are very much interested in
the fate of the black boxes. I mean people from Moscow.'
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Anything to confess, Putin? Russian president in church as world leaders warn
him you can't 'wash your hands' of MH17 disaster
A pro-Russian rebel who calls himself 'Novorossiya', or New Russia, had earlier
Tweeted that the black boxes belonging to the downed Malaysian airliner had
been brought to Donetsk in eastern Ukraine.
An international team of air crash investigators has still not been able to
access the scene because of the area's instability.
Mr Borodai said he planned handing the black boxes over to the International
Civil Aviation Organisation.
He also said the bodies recovered from the crash site in eastern Ukraine would
remain in refrigerated containers at a train station in the town of Torez until
the arrival of an international aviation delegation.
A Ukrainian worker passes body bags at the main crash site of the Boeing 777
near Grabovo, 100km east of Donetsk
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A Ukrainian worker passes body bags at the main crash site of the Boeing 777
near Grabovo, 100km east of Donetsk
Debris: Cranes were brought into the sunflower fields to handle the
obliterated parts scattered across the land and covered in ash
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Debris: Cranes were brought into the sunflower fields to handle the obliterated
parts scattered across the land and covered in ash
Though most of the bodies have been recovered, workers could be seen
inspecting the exploded aircraft for further remains late into the night
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Though most of the bodies have been recovered, workers could be seen inspecting
the exploded aircraft for further remains late into the night
Negotiations: World leaders are working to repatriate the bodies, many of
which remain along the streets of eastern Ukraine
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Negotiations: World leaders are working to repatriate the bodies, many of which
remain along the streets of eastern Ukraine
Workers continue to search the wreckage of flight MH17 in the search of
additional bodies as approximately 100 are still unaccounted for
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Workers continue to search the wreckage of flight MH17 in the search of
additional bodies as approximately 100 are still unaccounted for
Workers continue to search the wreckage of flight MH17 in the search of
additional bodies as approximately 100 are still unaccounted for
Progress: Identifiable bodies have been placed in refrigerated trains as plans
are under way to transport them to morgues and eventually to the families
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Progress: Identifiable bodies have been placed in refrigerated trains as plans
are under way to transport them to morgues and eventually to the families
Political: After three days of negotiations, Russia has agreed to hand over
the black box and the bodies that have been recovered
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Political: After three days of negotiations, Russia has agreed to hand over the
black box and the bodies that have been recovered
Investigators from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation have today
been granted access to a refrigerated train carriage containing the bodies
MH17 victims
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Investigators from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation have today
been granted access to a refrigerated train carriage containing the bodies
MH17 victims
Investigators from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation have today
been granted access to a refrigerated train carriage containing the bodies
MH17 victims
Oleksandr Serhiyovych said Moscow wanted to know the location of the black
boxes
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Oleksandr Serhiyovych said Moscow wanted to know the location of the black boxes
The conversations were intercepted by Ukrainian state security services
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The conversations were intercepted by Ukrainian state security services
Rebel commander Oleksandr Serhiyovych orders his men to find the black boxes
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Rebel commander Oleksandr Serhiyovych orders his men to find the black boxes
Oleksandr Serhiyovych said Moscow was 'very much interested' in the fate of
the black boxes
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Oleksandr Serhiyovych said Moscow was 'very much interested' in the fate of the
black boxes[item name=video id=1135868 style=2 /]
However, despite the move to reduce tension between Russia and the
international community, Putin has ordered troops to move closer to the border
with Ukraine, even supplying extra armaments and new multiple rocket systems to
rebels.
This incendiary allegation came as the Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko
insisted he had seen new satellite imagery of the site of the strike which
downed the Malaysian Boeing 777, giving 'conclusive evidence' of collusion
between Moscow and separatists on the attack.
In shocking new disclosures - in defiance of Western demands to Vladimir Putin
- he is not only reinforcing his military capability on the border, but
supplying yet more lethal weapons to rebels, according to security officials in
Kiev.
Even as blame for the MH17 atrocity is linked directly to the separatists and
Moscow, Ukraine's National Security and Defence Council yesterday listed the
weaponry it claims to have seen crossing from Russia into rebel held regions
close to the site of the plane crash.
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Mr Borodai said the victims' bodies would remain in refrigerated railway
carriages in the village of Torez, nine miles from the crash site but still in
a rebel controlled zone
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Mr Borodai said the victims' bodies would remain in refrigerated railway
carriages in the village of Torez, nine miles from the crash site but still in
a rebel controlled zone
The black box could contain vital evidence of the final moments of flight MH17
including the final words of the pilots allowing investigators to determine
what happened
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The black box could contain vital evidence of the final moments of flight MH17
including the final words of the pilots allowing investigators to determine
what happened
The black box could contain vital evidence of the final moments of flight MH17
including the final words of the pilots allowing investigators to determine
what happened
[item name=video id=1135997 style=2 /]
Ukrainian spokesman Andriy Lysenko said: 'Russia continues to supply the
terrorists in Ukraine with heavy combat vehicles and other types of arms.
'In particular, over the past 24 hours, four tanks, three infantry fighting
vehicles, three Grad [multiple rocket launch] systems, four APCs and several
Ural lorries with arms onboard were transported to Lugansk Region from the
territory of the Russian Federation through the town of Bilenke, Krasnodon
District.'
Ukrainian intelligence claims the BUK missile launcher which killed 298 last
Thursday has been smuggled back to Russia, but is being replaced in Donetsk and
Lugansk regions by other killing machines.
Ukrainians claim that eight of their troops have been killed and a further 50
wounded as fighting continues in the troubled region.
It was also alleged that Russia is swelling its military forces in border areas
especially in Rostov and Belgorod regions.
Kiev's 5 Kanal TV reported: 'Border guards also noticed a column of 30 Russian
tanks near the Ukrainian border in Bryansk Region and a significant amount of
armoured vehicles near the town of Novoshakhtinsk, Rostov Region.
'According to the State Border Service, 100 Russian servicemen at the gas
distribution station near the village of Strilkove, Kherson Region took firing
positions and put their machinery - four tanks and three APCs - in combat order.
'At the same time, 14 howitzers moved from Simferopol to the town of Perekop at
the border with mainland Ukraine.'
The international investigators, who are wearing body armour, were allowed to
photograph some of the victims who had been removed nine miles from the crash
site
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The international investigators, who are wearing body armour, were allowed to
photograph some of the victims who had been removed nine miles from the crash
site
The international investigators, who are wearing body armour, were allowed to
photograph some of the victims who had been removed nine miles from the crash
site
Poroshenko on Sunday said he had satellite imagery from the site where the BUK
missile system was fired to down the Malaysia Airlines flight.
Accusing rebels of hindering the work of the air crash probe, the angry
Poroshenko said: 'It won't save them because we have satellite imagery from the
site of the rocket launch, photos and footage showing the missile system, all
of which proves that weapons were brought in from Russia, as well as
intercepted phone calls between terrorists and other conclusive evidence.'
US secretary of state John Kerry echoed Poroshenko's claims that the missile
system for the plane strike was supplied by Russia.
'We picked up the imagery of this launch. We know the trajectory,'
He told NBC's Meet the Press. 'We know where it came from. We know the timing.'
In an interview with CNN, he added: 'It's pretty clear that this is a system
that was transferred from Russia in the hands of separatists.
'We know with confidence, with confidence that the Ukrainians did not have such
a system anywhere near the vicinity at that point in time. So it obviously
points a very clear finger at the separatists.'
Mr Kerry said the US had intelligence that major supplies of weapons have been
transferred from Russia to rebel forces over the past several weeks - including
a 150-vehicle convoy of armoured personnel carriers, tanks and rocket
launchers.
Kerry said the United States intercepted conversations about the transfer to
separatists of the Russian SA-11 radar-guided SA11 missile system it blames for
the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
Emotional: Families have issued emotional pleas to the officials working on
the site to return their loved ones and their personal effects
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Emotional: Families have issued emotional pleas to the officials working on the
site to return their loved ones and their personal effects
On guard: Armed pro-Russian separatists remain guarding the site despite
accusations that their compatriots were behind the disaster
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