Friends
Which goes to show how one sided is discussing Africa issues. Every African
that discussed Sudan issue ended up ramped up on Sudan must split, my God
how a great country they will create, they have been held all along , had
Sudan got independence all the problem we have in Sudan would have ended
already. And as the devil does all the time, so it was granted, and Baganda
parasitic as they always are, they were the first to sing hallelujah Jesus
should come to Buganda as he has shown himself to the Sudanese.
Well tell me this when did you see any one praising the results of
separating ever? Nope every single topic you see about South Sudan is about
tragedy is about death is about crucifixion of the live people, to a point
that till today, I have not read a single writing of anything good that has
ever happened in Sudan since the creation of that country. So the discussion
of Africans is only divided into two, a blind support of a very un
researched solution and making all wings on it of how it must be implemented
for it is the only viable solution. A dramatic list of tragedies and
confusions as they continue burying themselves. Ugandas problem is unitary
and it is solution is Federalism. Do you get what I am going after?
No I am not going to define Africans as stupid for Ssalongo Ssenoga is going
to define me as a melodramatic man on a God damn Monday morning!!!!!!!
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in
anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni
katika machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 5:30 AM
To: UAH
Subject: Re: {UAH} Kiir meets Museveni as Ugandan leader gives open
invitation to Machar over stalled talks - News - www.theeastafrican.co.ke
Ndugu Ocen.
Nope. Even after M7 they will be fighting each other.
Only that it plays right into M7's hands. A buffer zone.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:53 AM, Moses Ocen Nekyon <[email protected]>
wrote:
Ndugu Allan;
Is M7 the cause of the fight in South Sudan?
Ocen
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From: Allan
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 00:57
To: ug at
Reply To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Kiir meets Museveni as Ugandan leader gives open
invitation to Machar over stalled talks - News - www.theeastafrican.co.ke
Ndugu Ocen,
The only bull in south Sudan was Garang. These are hangers on. The real
bull in south Sudan is M7. I don't think Garang would have taken this crap
from M7.
Remember that's what happened in Rwanda. But Kagame took no such crap. You
know why it took so long for M7 to officially visit Kigali for the first
time?
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On Aug 25, 2014 12:27 AM, "Moses Ocen Nekyon" <[email protected]> wrote:
Ndugu Allan;
How can you be a Bull if you need person security from a friendly country?
Ocen
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From: Allan
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 23:40
To: ug at
Reply To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} Kiir meets Museveni as Ugandan leader gives open
invitation to Machar over stalled talks - News - www.theeastafrican.co.ke
There can't be two bulls in a kraal. Impossible.
Sent from my LG G2 android smartphone device
On Aug 24, 2014 11:24 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Yoweri-Museveni-meets-Salva-Kiir-invite
s-Riek-Machar-for-talks/-/2558/2428616/-/rqhqlg/-/index.html
Kiir meets Museveni as Ugandan leader gives open invitation to Machar over
stalled talks - News
President Salva Kiir and Yoweri Museveni after a consultative meeting held
in Kampala August 22, 2014. PHOTO | FILE
South Sudan President Salva Kiir rushed to Uganda on Friday and met
President Yoweri Museveni soon after the Ugandan leader extended an
invitation to his nemesis rebel leader Dr Riek Machar.
Kiirs visit came as the Uganda government was hosting Dr Machars
emissaries, who had four days of intensive discussions with high-level
officials in the country and were set to meet Museveni by press time.
The meetings were chaired by Gen Caleb Akandwanaho, brother of President
Museveni and senior presidential adviser on security and defence.
Details of the three-hour meeting between the two presidents remain scanty,
but as he left Kiir remarked to a group of Ugandan MPs who were waiting at
State House Entebbe to meet Museveni: The country is at war with itself and
there is no other enemy fighting but us.
It emerged that Dr Machars six emissaries left Kampala with an open
invitation from President Museveni to their commander calling for a meeting
to discuss the stalemate in the peace process.
The team, which held a four-day closed door meeting that lasted over 10
hours each day, discussed and set an agenda for the proposed meeting between
the two leaders.
The meeting comes at a time the Addis Ababa peace talks have stalled and the
rebels say they are looking for an option to the protracted peace
negotiations that have resulted in neither an enforceable ceasefire
agreement nor a negotiated political settlement.
The discussions between Machars group and Ugandan officials also ended two
days to the Sunday August 24 meeting of the Inter-Governmental Authority on
Development Heads of State to be held at the Palace in the Ethiopian capital
Addis Ababa, when Western countries and the UN Security Council expect the
regional leaders to announce sanctions against the two warring principals.
But sources indicate that Igad heads of state are sharply divided over the
issue of sanctions, and the Sunday meeting may not yield much.
The agenda of the meeting, seen by The EastAfrican, indicates that there
will be opening statements from China, Italy, The Troika, Ethiopia, the Igad
Executive Secretary from 11-12 noon. Then a closed session will ensue, where
a progress report on the talks will be discussed.
Sources also pointed out that this meeting comes at a time that Machars
group has realised that victory in the war is unlikely and the reality of
meeting the welfare of the soldiers is daunting.
There is also frustration and donor fatigue by Western countries, judging
from the statement of Anne Richard, the US Assistant Secretary, Bureau of
Population, Refugees and Migration, who not only further urged the two
parties to resume stalled talks but also said, As much as Americans have
funds for South Sudan, there is a limit, I think, to how much aid can be
provided in a year with so many crises around the world.
On Friday, the US Congress Committee of Foreign Affairs called on the
Security Council to levy sanctions against the leaders and impose an arms
embargo on South Sudan.
Back in Kampala, Gen Akandwanaho-chaired meeting, attended by Junior Defence
Minister Jeje Odongo and four top security officials. However, the team was
tightlipped about the agenda agreed upon for the leaders meeting.
The two delegations discussed the security situation in South Sudan and how
it can be resolved through peaceful means. They agreed to explore all
possible ways to facilitate and quicken the ongoing peace process in Addis
Ababa. It was also agreed that the two sides continue to have regular
interactions to fast track the peace process so that South Sudan can return
to normalcy, said the government in a statement released on Thursday
evening.
Sources, however, told The EastAfrican that the meeting between Museveni and
Machar will hear from Uganda its national security concerns in South Sudan
are, because when Uganda went into the conflict, they went in on the pretext
of a coup having taken place, but now even the Uganda government has
dismissed that.
But the main issue that will be focused on is how to bring peace to South
Sudan and the role that the Uganda Peoples Defence Forces will play.
At the end of last weeks preparatory meeting, there seems to have been a
compromise on an earlier precondition that Uganda should withdraw its troops
from South Sudan before any discussion between Museveni and Machar could
take place. The demand will now be discussed in the leaders meeting.
Yes, withdrawal of troops will be on the agenda. How that will be done is
now a part of the discussions and what would be the impact because there is
also the question of the Lords Resistance Army, if Uganda withdraws, said
the source.
Questions, however remain over whether the Museveni-Machar meeting will
resolve the crisis, and indeed, if the Ugandan leader will drop support for
Kiir and embrace Dr Machar.
Stakeholders in the war say such questions got no clear answers given the
divisions within Igad, where mediation, supported by Ethiopia, has shown
bias against the opposition, and in support of Kiir, with only Kenya sitting
on the fence over the issue.
President Museveni has gone so deep in his support for Kiir, the mediators
are completely biased and supporting the government. The talks will not
achieve much. The question now is: Will Machar take this lying down? said a
source.
What is certain is that Kiirs intransigence is derived from Ugandas
support. Speaking to The EastAfrican, Mabior Garang de Mabior, son of South
Sudans first president, the late John Garang, and now a member Machars
peace negotiation team, said Uganda holds the key to the current stalemate
in the peace efforts.
The UPDF presence there in a way had a negative impact because it gives
Kiir an incentive to continue the war because he has no army; and by Uganda
being there, it has created intransigence on the part of Kiir, said Mr
Mabior.
Ugandas leverage over Kiir, Mr Mabior said, could be used to force him to
commit to the talks. Dr Machars group believes that a meeting between
Museveni and their leader will end the stalemate in the peace negotiations.
I cannot predict the future but I am hopeful that they are going to meet.
They both claim they want to see peace in South Sudan so if they are both
honest, they will meet and find a solution, said Mr Mabior.
But if all fails, Mr Mabior said, It would be the beginning of war. We have
only been defending ourselves from the onslaught of the government.
Even the chief of staff said recently that they have been provoking us to
fight. The White Army and other groups had heard that their relatives have
been killed and only went to rescue them, not that there is actual fighting.
The only battle was in Nassir, because people said enough is enough, but we
have not yet decided to fight. When we decide, that is when the war will
start.
According to the rebels, there is a force formed from soldiers, estimated at
70 per cent of the army, who defected with weapons from the national army,
which could easily be organised to fight on Dr Machars side.
Dr Machars group admits that their challenge now is to control the White
Army.
Kiir meets Museveni as Ugandan leader gives open invitation to Machar over
stalled talks - News - www.theeastafrican.co.ke
http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Yoweri-Museveni-meets-Salva-Kiir-invite
s-Riek-Machar-for-talks/-/2558/2428616/-/rqhqlg/-/index.html
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