Friends
What Billie Kadameri has written is very important for it raises the issue I
needed to clarify. The violence of Acholi’s. I was in Uganda all through Amin’s
government and we had a problem getting several commodities that we had to line
to them. Billie Kadameri is very right to list that as a black spot on Amin’s
government, what he is not right to do is to fail to explain why such
commodities got scarce in Uganda. You see that is how very selective is Edward
Pojim, Ocen Nekyon, Billie Kadameri, WBK and Gwokto in discussing Amin’s
government. So let us go back into discussing the facts than the innuendos of
those very terrified poor non litho Acholi kids that WBK protected so that they
murder us in Luwero. When commodities get lost in a country there has to be a
cause, why did we fall short of salt sugar soap hoes and so on? Was the
government thus the country poor to import such facilities? The answer is no we
never had a problem with money to import anything. Did the factories break
down? No there was no single stalled industry under Amin for we could fix them
and we had the ability to do so. Was it due to power shortage? The answer is no
we never had load shedding in Uganda at all under Amin. So why did we have the
shortage Billie Kadameri? For I need to hold this discussion in an intelligent
way than simply throwing it in a forum that there were lines and you don’t tell
why they were there.
When you go back in our history you will see things that happened which we
would control and things we would never control, the Amin government takeover
we would never control, the departure of UPC one government we would never
control. But we would control the after effects of such change. And yet the
Acholi’s from get go rejected anything defined as change. For some very unknown
reason, Acholi’s actually believe that no one can lead Uganda except them.
Acholi’s are the only tribe in Uganda where a member of each family must belong
to a Police Force, a prison force, an army force, or a government position.
Government leadership is the single largest employer of all Acholi’s in Uganda.
Thus when you change a government they bolt and stand up and very fast to
sacrifice everything they so hold for now you are threatening that God given
right to be the eternal leaders of Uganda. In a Canadian system we call that
holding a God damn firkin God complex.
In as much as Iddi Amin took power, in as much as all Ugandans agreed to that
change, Acholi’s never agreed that the government had been thrown out. They
opposed Amin’s government way before it was even sworn to power to today. When
you look closely today in 2014 the people that vent anger at Amin and who talk
all garbage after him, are actually Acholi’s only. The rest of Ugandans
understood the government was removed and it will never ever come back, they
moved on and continued to build their country weak as they were. On the other
side, the Acholi’s went on the rampage system of destroying everything we had
as a state, but they also went after killing as many Ugandans as they so could.
Friends, Acholi’s are killers and if you fail to register anything from this
piece, understanding that Acholi’s are by creation killers will have served the
purpose of this writing. In as much as everyone complains that Amin killed
Acholi’s, in as much as WBK states that he was hiding those very poor souls, no
one explains why Amin hated them. And no one explains why that hate only
survived in cities and towns, when you go to Northern Uganda, the Acholi’s that
were home never had a problem with the government and WBK never hidden them.
Acholi’s started by refusing to surrender in the barracks of Mubende. They were
handed all chances they were handed all instructions, they were handed all
advises and at the end of the day, when all barrackses had surrendered and
joined the government, the barracks of Mubende after almost a month was
annihilated. WBK what did you want Iddi Amin to do as a good soldier that has
thrown out a government? Walk to Mubende barracks and hand them a slap on the
hand and everything is alright? Since Amin came to power we continued to get a
problem from day to night of Acholi’s attacking people and murdering them,
raping them, Kondoism that was so organized happened, killing people with
pangers became eminent and targeting rich business people also became
paramount. Acholi’s have been violent people all along and what Amin tried to
do was to follow that violence and try to stop it. Acholi’s sabotaged the
country by murdering people but they also worked with Kenya to refuse our
commodities from entering Uganda. That is why we had that shortage Kadameri
sir. We ordered the comedies we paid for them we met all international
standards, but Acholi’s sacrificed their own people from getting soap because
they needed Amin out of power to make them lead Uganda again.
What is so strange about Acholi’s is that in as much as they so sabotaged
Amin’s government in support of the UPC government that was thrown out, they
again turned around murdered Ugandans in tens of thousands and went after that
very same government and threw it out. On record The Obote two government was
thrown out of power by Acholi’s and Acholi’s that were UPC members, I now
present to you OLara Otunnu a first prosecution witness. It is with this back
ground why Museveni decided to camp them. Acholi’s do not have a political
agenda, they have no political belief, they have no leadership among
themselves, they have no potential leader, what they have is loud mouth punks
as Gwokto that talk and disappear, that are so unquestionably respected by half
informed members as Edward Pojim and WBK.
Just to give you a back ground, I now raise the name of Okello the band master.
A true Ugandan that made these matches that excited all of us, not that
educated but he was a Police Band master, and Amin personally got interested
into him and listed him among those that are his favorites. If there is
anything to be questioned about Okello It goes through me, those were Amin’s
words. Okello got a good job and got paid very well by all firkin standards. He
was promoted faster than those that had a better training and experience yet he
was an Acholi. So people when you stand in public to state how Amin hated
Acholi’s be very careful for some of us know very good friends he had among
them, and Okello was one of them. Iddi Amin encouraged and many times pushed
his officers to build private homes for themselves, Police Officers Army
Officers, Prison Officers and many civil servants had private homes, and for a
very good reason, working in government must never mean that if a government
falls you get out of the country. So get money and build a home for yourself.
We had Northerners that had huts literary they were sent to Libyan Arab bank
get funds but build a home for that tis where you will go when you no longer
work for the government. Those homes were private and to know them you needed
to be an insider. Okello the band master was an insider thus he knew many if
not all of them. These homes had private functions, for example Duwas and
Mauledis, Okusibulukuka, Id El Fitiri, you will not know where the president
will be sitting but probably in Mohamed Bilal’s home privately, so those were
very private places that you knew them for you had a right to. And among those
that knew them was Okello the band master. Why? Because he was an insider
Okello got invitations, the president is going to eat Okusibulukuka in
Farijarah’s home so everyone needs to be at that house before 5pm for the
president will slide in at 7 pm. The president and the Libyan ambassador will
be at Alli Towilli’s home for Iddi Elfitri so everyone show up early and among
those called is Okello the band master. And he showed up many timers with that
very fake and plastic Acholi smile.
Okello the band master became a jigger in the foot a the fall of Iddi Amin
because he knew all the private homes of most if not all officers in the core.
As UNLF/A walked into Kampala and many officers trying to report in to new
administration, they failed for Okello collected Acholi’s from Tanzania and
they made a first class kiboko squad, that was only killing every one as long
as you were an Amin’s soldier police officer prison officer. These people had
no plan to run out of Uganda, they did no firkin crime but serve their country.
And WBK with Pojim can scream the entire world over, fact remains that many
Amin soldiers many commissioned officers even those that were arrested in
Nairobi and returned, ended up released for they committed no crime. Okoth
Ogola is alive in Uganda today for Acholi’s failed to reach him in time to blow
him up. But if you want to take him to court and charge him of any crime, good
luck to that. And that is why some of us defend that government with a firkin
glee on our face. John Ogole has died as a very tiny but little pig as he was,
he cannot even be returned to Uganda when dead, do you know of any Amin’s
soldier a police officer a prison officer that has failed to be returned to
Uganda? And no offence to the Acholi’s fart.
A word started to get out there that Okello the band master is killing every
man woman and child that held an office in Amin’s government. A question became
very standard, does Okello the band master know your private home? If yes run
and very fast for he is coming with fellow Acholi goons and they are going to
kill you. The officers that remained in their homes singing I have no crime,
ended up murdered by Okello the band master, those that ran away for a while
are either dead of natural death or are alive sitting peacefully inside Uganda.
And why? They never committed a crime the only people again I repeat myself
that see them as criminals and see Amin’s government as a very brutal
government are only Acholi’s for he threw them out of power. May God help us to
hold a free and fair election when we have only two candidates, the dead Iddi
Amin and the alive Olara Otunnu you will be very surprised at who will win that
election. Friends, from Amin’s government to UNLA to Tito Okello government to
today Acholi’s have murdered very many people, from Luwero to West Nile
elimination to those that died in Kampala under Lule, and we need to start to
stand up and educate them that murder is never a solution to anything. There
was a reason why Museveni decided to camp only Acholi’s.
Ugandans fear to remove Museveni from power for after him they see an Acholi in
state house. Mumuleke muzeeyi waffe abeewo !!!!!!!
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gook
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 9:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: {UAH} People Enjoyed During Amin.
Lol Billie!
You have short memory? You forget seeing the Jurungas enjoying while you line
up for essentials?
You ungrateful Ugandan!
Sent from Gook's iPatch!
"What you are we once were, what we are you shall be!"
An inscription on the walls of a Roman catacomb.
On 8 sep 2014, at 11:41, Billie Kadameri <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Yeah,
People really enjoyed during Amin's time. I had the joy of watching people
lining up morning to late afternoon to buy a hoe made by Chillington Tool
Company.
A whole Brigadier Ali Fadhul Warris had to come and do that work. Then the next
day it was 'distribution' of salt and each family was entitled to buy only 1
glass full of salt.
That was 1974. When Ali Fadhul stood up and said "sorry, this is the last glass
remaining", the crowd almost crashed him under their feet until his bodyguard
(give credit to them), shot in the air and the big man was let go!
And people in the villages concocted derivatives from the 'ilila' tree to make
what became famously known as 'Ilila Omo', and a song was actually composed
about it.
Let someone from Lango and Acholi tell you how they came up with Lira Lira
drink from Cassava millet yeast after even the slimy sukari nguru (jaggery) had
disappeared. The drink had a name 'Amin bed Ilyeri' (Amin you can go to hell
with your non-existent essentials).
Those were days to enjoy!
Billie
_____
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 01:11:59 +0300
Subject: Re: {UAH} People Enjoyed During Amin.
From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Mr. Laduja.
Why the grumpiness? As if you hate telling the truth about your happiness those
days. Enjoy your Amin days memories! But let us know the name of the fellow who
shot your dad when you can, will you?
On Monday, September 8, 2014, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
> EM;
> Has it crossed your mind that Idi Amin, at the time of Independence was not
> the highest ranking officer in the 'Kings African Rifles (KAR).
> So how is it that he (Amin) led the Army since Independence????
>
> Ocen
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa
> Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 17:52
> To: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Reply To: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: {UAH} People Enjoyed During Amin.
>
> Friends
>
>
>
> It is writings as the one Noc’L has done here that makes some of us loose the
> argument that Iddi Amin was anti Acholi’s and Langis. You see from 1962 to
> 1971, Ugandans thought and believed rightly so that Uganda Army which was
> predominantly Acholi and Langi was serving Uganda, Ugandans and protecting
> them and their properties from external aggression. That belief disappeared
> immediately after January 25th 1971 when Acholi’s and Langis fled amass to
> Tanzania, followed by setting up a military training camp at Owiny Kibul.
> When and where did Amin issue an order that Acholi’s and Langis were no
> longer allowed in the army since Obote was overthrown? What plan did Obote,
> Acholi and Langi had in store that scared the two tribes so much that they
> had to flew from their very own boss Major General Iddi Amin Dada who led the
> Uganda Army right from independence? Edward Pojim, Ocen Nekyon, George
> Okello etc. what would you have done if you were Amin in that kind of
> situation when your army flees because your status is now changed?
>
> And surely, if Iddi Amin was that anti Acholi as we are led to believe, why
> did he not kill or arrest Erunayo Oryema or Jonan Luwum immediately after
> the coup? The answer was simple Oryema and Luwum were serving Uganda and not
> Obote nor UPC until they were screwed up and confused by fellow Acholi’s in
> Tanzania to turn against not only Iddi Amin but their very own country, which
> they had served without reservation for decades. Which brings me to a very
> secondary question to yours very truly, the so-called degree holders who call
> everyone else idiots, why did Pangrayrasiyo Onek stay with Amin till the very
> end.
>
>
>
> Was he of a less Acholi than Gwokto?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just asking !!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> EM
>
> On the 49th Parallel
>
> Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
> "With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in
> anarchy"
> Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
> "Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni
> katika machafuko"
>
> From: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> [mailto:[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> ]
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 4:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: SV: {UAH} People Enjoyed During Amin.
>
>
>
> Hussein, I think you should know that my time in the wood dates back to
> pre-independence.
>
> You can also had to the list that I both know
>
> President Museveni, PM Mbabazi and Minister Rugunda since way back. Mbabazi
> for example from while he was still at Makerere. I was just a primary kid but
> my Uncles and aunties were at Makerere. So we used to go there as kids do and
> get offered Ice Cream etc. Then it was this Olara Otunu & co campaigning for
> Guild Presidentcy.Mbabazi was one of them.
>
>
>
> I still recall I learned new terms: "implementation andamalgamation (which I
> did not even know what they meant). But I used them to terrorize my sibblings
> with at dinner. My old man was so amused as he explained to me the meanings.
>
>
>
> As for your dad, he loved dancing this Alur dance which they used to have at
> the GSU house
>
> (formally Minister Onama's house at Nakasero).
>
>
>
> And by the way,does the name Fadhmolla (spl?!) ring a bell? So, I knew Amin
> long before he was Col.
>
>
>
> Binaisa too was another I greeted. So, of the Presidents, it was actually
> only Pesident Lule
>
> I never came close to.
>
>
>
> But these explain nothing about the killings or what ever perseverences.
>
> Noc'l
>
> “WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US”….noc’la gaumoy.
>
>
>
> Den söndag, 7 september 2014 22:05 skrev Hussein Amin
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >:
>
>
>
> Just read through the emails below. Hopefully they remain honest with
> themselves...and the Lord.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: 'gaumoy nockrach-laduma' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> >
> Date: Sunday, September 7, 2014
> Subject: {UAH} HERE I COME REV JESS, REV. JK , SSALONGO & co!!
> To: "[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> "
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> >
>
>
> Not that I suddenly got nostagic
> this beautiful Sunday before I go out
> for my Sunday evening walk but, well, a little
> some nostalgi for the road has never killed
> anybody.
> I thought I should join you but the headline
> under which your homesickness surfaced was
> distasteful to me.
> Now Rev Joseph, are you through with your
> nostalgi trip? If you are, then here I come:
> The entire green Valley from the MUSEUM TO WAMPEO
> VIA KOLOLO AIRSTRIP was our playing and recreation ground. We even enjoyed
> planes landing there before they moved to Naguru airfield.
> Of course, they violated us when they later built Kitante Primary school
> there.
> And when YMCA was built, that too was ours!
>
> You think you were walking, here I come: The entire Nakasero and Kololo was
> ours. We must have met.
> I surely think we shall recognise each other if / when we meet.
> There is not a street in Nakasero and Kololo that
> missed my stamp....., not a short-cut!!
> My favorite senene spots were Wandageya, Mulago round-abouts on Kira rd and
> the Nakasero roundabout infront of the Kampala park and Imperial (then Grand)
> As we used to say,If they could close down electricity on the darkest night,
> I would make it through either kololo or Nakasero without kicking a stone.
> And more over, doding all holes. How about that!?!??!
> And you know what, I knew who lived where, who drove which car and which
> family had the sweetest girls ( to enrich my sight cos then it was really
> only about watching: had not come into action age yet).
> Now how about if I spice it more by saying Kabaka Mutesa, Obote, Babhia, Amin
> have all been waving to us regularly each time they drove passed by?!
> And, I have actually been within a couple meters
> to all those excellencies. As a scout, Kabaka visited us at Kazi Camp and he
> recognised me from those regular wavings. Amin too, did recognised me.
> Because one time when he had already become president, he was driving along
> Kampala rd. And when he saw me, he waved as he used to do befor he became
> president.
> As a scout, Obote inspected us regularly. Now how about that!!
> Have a nice nostagic trip!
> Noc'l
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Till
> Ugandans at Heart
> Idag vid 1.50 AM
> Me too Ssalongo.
>
> Ago gonna nange Matwale gange ne Naguru.
>
> But don't lose heart!
>
> We R soon going back for God says so.
> Psalm 126
> When we returned from exile
> We we like men and women dreaming!
> Our mouths were filled with laughter...
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> ________________________________
> From: Ssalongo Ssennoga <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> >
> Sender: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 08:02:08 +0300
> To: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> >
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Re: Attention; Hussein Amin
> Reverend you make me sick... Home sick! We used to fear and envy the Butida -
> Wielding kids from Naggulu and Kifumbira yet the tree lined hill was always a
> heavenly refuge. Stop playing on my memory neighborhood
> Villager
>
> With regards from ACE-AGE
> On Sep 5, 2014, at 6:23, Joseph Kamugisha <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>
> Yea! Those were the dsys. As a kid all the way to teen age life there's no
> street or area of Kololo that I not reach. Walking was by choice for me. Fun
> during day time but walking at night from down town Kampala to Kololo
> depending on which direction where one was coming from and the final
> destination was always the biggest challenge. Passing via Loira road to
> Accacia avenue or risk going through the valley by Kawalya Kaggwa close near
> the late Katto's home was always a tough decision to make after dark. Accacia
> had an officers mess to the eight and to the left before turning on Mabua
> road while the valley by Kawalya Kaggwa vko was just that. A dark valley.
> Going thru the golf course via Kitante road was not even an option. From the
> Sheraton down to fairway hotel and up on Accacia was more scarcely. In the
> event of ceremonies or festivities at Lugogo stadium, now that was fun. If
> the street lights were on. Talking about street lights. Ridge way and summit
> view were our favourite locations for catching e'nsenene in the late hours.
> Oh those days of hunting for nsenene....! Kamugisha
>
> ________________________________
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Re: Attention; Hussein Amin
> To: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 23:36:20 +0000
>
> So U were my neighbour. I used to take evening walks all around.
> Such were the days!
>
> Then in my platform shoes and later stiletto, all six inches from Kololo to
> Norman and back!
>
> No public transport to Kololo!
>
> Hmmmmnnnn!
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> ________________________________
> From: Joseph Kamugisha <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
> Sender: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 22:19:00 +0000
> To: UG @ Heart<[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]> >
> ReplyTo: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: {UAH} Re: Attention; Hussein Amin
> Thank you Rev. Nakawombe! I lived on Elizabeth Avenue off of Prince Charles
> Avenue for about twenty years!
>
> ________________________________
> Subject: Re: {UAH} Re: Attention; Hussein Amin
> To: [email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>
> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:17:08 +0000
>
> Rev. Kamugisha,
>
> This is a wonderful eulogy of someone who didn't know Kay very well, she had
> become a public figure.
>
> We were all appalled at Kay's dismembering! We we neighbours to Mali ya
> Mungu, and one of my relatives, a doctor I lived with, (RIP), mentioned the
> horror - for we were young and public acknowledgement would have cost him his
> life as well - that gripped Mulago, and how Dr. Mbalu was also abducted.
>
> I will stop there in respect for the dead Kay (RIP).
>
> Hussein Lumumba, my deep condolences. May God give U the peace that passes
> all understand and heal UR pain, anger and bitterness that is caused by such
> traumatic incidents, especially when young.
>
> We used to see U all on TV. I lived a few metres away from the Command Post
> Kololo. Passed everyday to and from school.
>
> Rev. Jessica Nakawombe
> Joshua 1:9
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
>
> “WE FORM THE CULTURE THAT FORMS US”….noc’la gaumoy.
>
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