Matek
We have a whole whack of history to refer to to prevent falling into surprises.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:52 AM
To: ugandacom; voice-of-uganda
Subject: Re: [UGANDACOM] RE: {UAH} The Observer - Democracy not coming soon,
let's live with it
Gwee EMmuuuuuuuuu
Sometimes I think "Olina Lugambo"dalla dalla Nyo Nyo Nyo, or is it prapaganda ,
like Idi Amin Dada, use to say.
Who said Mbuu Western Ugandans are quote " going to kill each other"?
You promote what in Political Circles would be term and Politicial Scientist
would called "Sensentionalism" .
I strongly disagree; NO WESTERN is going to turn on each other.
Instead many Westerners and Ugandans will Turn against the chief DUPPER Yoweri
Kaguta Museveni...Kaguta , with his lies, made the bed he will lay in it just
Like papa Doc Duvalier, Idi AminConquerer of The British Empire, DSO, VC
ssalongo, or just like Emperior Bukassa of CAR Mobutu of Zaire and the list
goes on and own.
MK
The sequence is going to be very simple. A Westerner is going to throw that
government out of power, Westerners are going to start to kill each other based
on tribal differences, then the rest of you in Kampala will start to go after
all Westerners those that have thrown the government out of power and those
thrown out of power plus the Rwandese juu yake, then a civil war will follow,
going with at minimum 15 to 20 mills. Then Ugandans will start to talk.
Ssabassajja Mutebi? It will depend on the decision he makes as soon as the
Museveni government falls, if gets out of Uganda before Westerners go after
each other he will be fine. And that is a window of 24 hours only. Save this
transcript for you will need it to tick off what has been done and what is
coming next.
And we can flip the brains all we so want but the assessment is based on facts
on the ground. Take it or
leave it.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 7:56 PM, 'Herrn Edward Mulindwa' [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> [UGANDACOM] <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
The sequence is going to be very simple. A Westerner is going to throw that
government out of power, Westerners are going to start to kill each other based
on tribal differences, then the rest of you in Kampala will start to go after
all Westerners those that have thrown the government out of power and those
thrown out of power plus the Rwandese juu yake, then a civil war will follow,
going with at minimum 15 to 20 mills. Then Ugandans will start to talk.
Ssabassajja Mutebi? It will depend on the decision he makes as soon as the
Museveni government falls, if gets out of Uganda before Westerners go after
each other he will be fine. And that is a window of 24 hours only. Save this
transcript for you will need it to tick off what has been done and what is
coming next.
And we can flip the brains all we so want but the assessment is based on facts
on the ground. Take it or
leave it.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of WB
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 7:40 PM
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: {UAH} The Observer - Democracy not coming soon, let's live with it
Folks:
The short and brunt interpretation of Mr. Mutekaani Katunzi's article is this:
Ugandans should let President Yoweri Kaguta Museveni rule until death. The
other interpretation and I think Abbey alluded to it before, YKM may load it on
Ugandans today but time is now his number one enemy. Can he rule for another
28 years?. No. What about 5 or 10? May be. So for the next 5 or 10 years Mr.
Mutekaani Katunzi is telling Ugandans the truth: forget democracy during YKM's
reign. May be after his time but not now. That is so true.
And the Minister who summoned Mr. Katunzi to warn him about staying away from
YKM 's three amigos of "his power, army and family". You guessed it. Mr. John
Patrick Amama Mbabazi the former PM, the one who was closest to YKM. Bingo.
WBK
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:25:33 +0000
From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: {UAH} The Observer - Democracy not coming soon, let's live with it
NRA Kateregga,
Interesting piece, is it not?
Taata...Kateregga;
Nsibambi, Bukenya, Kivenjinja, Ali, oops, Bukenya, Amin-Ali...taata.
Ugandans, believe in better.
Ochieno
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<mailto:[email protected]> " <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
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Columnists
Sunday, 05 October 2014 20:48
Written by Pius Muteekani Katunzi
Democracy isn’t coming home. Everybody knows it (at least everyone capable of
knowing).
But false hope has become an obstinate emotion! It is entrenched in our psyche,
disabling our rational minds.
A lot has been written about the sacking of the former Prime Minister Amama
Mbabazi and the subsequent withdrawal of military guards from his home. Many
have characterised this decision as ‘arbitrary, undemocratic and a peep into
the dark side of the president.
There is nothing unusual that the president did. Was Mbabazi supposed to hold
the job for eternity? And were you surprised that Mbabazi had to go the way he
did? If you were, I don’t think Mbabazi is surprised and that may explain why
he decided to keep quiet about that particular matter.
In 2007, while news editor of the then The Weekly Observer, I was summoned, at
about 8pm, to Postel building, which then housed the Office of the Prime
Minister. I met a senior minister and historical member of the National
Resistance Movement (NRM).
This gentleman had been misled by the state intelligence hands, that we were
preparing a salacious story about President Museveni’s family and, therefore,
he wanted to advise me against publishing it. There was no story of that kind.
When I arrived in his office, the minister asked whether I knew the closest
person to the president. I shot off a few names but he rejected them. He
sarcastically told me that he knew I knew the truth but I was playing monkey
with him. Anyway, after letting off a loud laughter, he told me the person.
As we were about to end our conversation, he reminded me that Museveni is a
good leader but he is unforgiving and ruthless when one tries to make him
uncomfortable about three things: “his power, his army, and his family.” Do you
notice the possessive word (his) used here!
“ My grandson, if you want trouble with the president, touch those three things
I have just mentioned,” he counselled.
An equally cynical friend recently said that the president wouldn’t care to
have a corrupt minister who turns public funds into his pocket change or steal
that oil in Bunyoro, provided he does not threaten his seat of power. Another
added that even if it was discovered that a member of his family was
threatening his power, she/he would face the same wrath! So, those around him
know their leader’s dos and don’ts.
And those who have attempted to stretch the boundary have had a fair share of
the visionary’s wrath. I am troubled by those who continually preach to us
about the need for democracy, especially those from within. Even for the Greeks
who are associated with democracy; it didn’t start with all the citizens. The
election or democracy was for the free men and not the slaves.
In 2016, we will waste billions of shillings confirming a foregone conclusion,
that President Museveni will remain president of this republic. I sincerely
think we don’t need presidential and parliamentary elections for this country.
And if we need them, then we need to change the way they organised and
conducted.
For instance, those who don’t pay tax, those who don’t have property, those
who live below the poverty line, should not be allowed to vote. They have no
stake for the moment. Unfortunately, they are the majority and you know how the
politicians love the ignorant. These categories participate in an election to
take a decision on national leaders who they cannot hold to account.
The valve of their vote is reduced to as little as half a kilo of sugar, a
piece of soap. I recently saw a television clip of people in Karamoja rejecting
pit latrines and still urging their pregnant women not to share latrines with
the in-laws.
They just [ease themselves] anywhere. This is Uganda. And you expect such
people to have an idea why leaders should be voted for? What is their interest
in democracy? Why should someone who pays millions or billions in taxes have
the same vote like that person?
President Museveni was recently given a rousing welcome from USA by some
mobilised party faithfuls and other hired guns. What was noticeable at the
Entebbe mayor’s gardens, where this function was held, was that while there was
a sizeable number of the young, the elderly were also present.
Remarkably, these elderly people, who were visibly older than Museveni,
addressed him as Taata. “Taata kulikayo, era ffe tukyakwagala (welcome back
father, we still love you),” they said. The ordinary meaning of the word taata
is that of a man in relation to his natural children. Since some of those who
called Museveni taata were much older than him, it means the word transcended
its ordinary meaning.
It appears these elders looked at the president as the source of livelihood and
therefore, it means a lot for them for Museveni to remain in power for purely
selfish reasons. The unemployed youths were too falling over themselves to
capture the man’s attention. If one asked any of those youths, or even the
ministers, to state Uganda’s foreign policy or health policy, no one would
competently make an attempt.
That is our Uganda today. And we still want elections! Do we need elections to
so that we enter world records that we have regular elections to choose our
leaders, or do we participate because we think it is a legitimate way of
promoting democracy?
There is no value added by these elections. Democracy is not coming soon. And
the earlier we came to grips with this blunt reality, the better for us all.
Let President Museveni , the visionary, be.
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"Even if Joseph Kony was killed, that would not necessarily be the end of the
war in northern Uganda because Kony is no more than a ‘ spiritual’ leader of
the LRA. This quick fix, arm-chair solution seemed to be from the Kampala-based
‘opinion leaders’ who only know the war through newspapers".
" Until the legitimate grievances and the marginalization of northern Uganda’s
communities are addressed, LRA fighters remain a possible vehicle for the
expression of northerners’ frustrations".
"Kony may never sign a peace agreement. Whether or not he signs, however, is
less relevant to avoiding new conflict in northern Uganda than ending
marginalization policies and fulfilling promises by the Ugandan government."
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