Friends
Just before I go to bed tonight, let me indicate to you how important this
thread is, not important for it is new in the forum but it is important because
it is being discussed in honest. Simon Okurut, Ssekajja, pOcure and all of the
trading company limited are stating the problem very eloquently, Uganda is in a
disaster yet we simply cannot put our hands on its solution. But that stage has
been reached at before, my God those that sat in Moshi sang the same chorus,
Iddi Amin passed that same passage, going to Luwero war was based on same
understanding. Why do we eloquently state the problem of Uganda but we always
just fall very short of solutions? Discussing Iddi Amin has become a problem in
UAH for many fear responding to straight data presented. Yes I know questions I
pose that will shut up many out there. Is it that you are using wrong
prescription? Is it that you are neglecting useful variables that you would use
to find a fix to your problem? I decided to leave Uganda and abandon its
citizenship for as a critical thinker I saw no future in Uganda as a country
after the failure of Obote two government, to me that did it. The worst people
that came to my face came from Tanzania to liberate me for Iddi Amin was a
dictator, yet they screwed up the country in one month. And barely !!!!!!! No I
am getting old I have my kids they need to get a second chance to life as
Ugandans screw themselves up and I bolted out. It is a decision that was smart
and I have never regretted it a second bit for today, Ocen Nekyon Edward Pojim
Gwokto and so on that I left in Uganda singing Halleluiah for Amin is gone, are
in exile too and I am doing way better than them. And trust me on that. I have
kids that have gone out of school they have done well, I have those that have
failed but they have options than getting blown up. My debts are largely paid,
and I am living very well thank you. So where do you go wrong to always remain
in this revolving door I one time saw in London when Tomusange was sitting in
his pharmacy lab crap in London singing how the removal of Obote is the only
solution to Uganda? What variable are you missing that the Dr Kisekka’s missed
in his Nairobi clinic where he said that as soon as Acholi’s go Uganda will
become a developed country?
Let me tell you a love story on Uganda and Africans and how they so operate
may be you will get my drift. For a very long time I have decided to go after
Edward Pojim, WBK, Professor George Ayittey, George Okello, Okello Nekyon,
Gwokto and many others because they have made a single argument on Africa and
its failure, we have a very poor leadership in Africa that is why we have
failed. We are failing for Mugabe is not moving. To them if we get a good
leader in Africa we will drop the tyranny we have and Africa will develop. I
threw out that argument because Africa’s problem is so complex and I am tonight
looking at it from the bird’s eye view.
Come next Friday, it is Halloween in North America, this is the night when the
Ghosts take over the streets and kids go to houses to get candies when they
have put on all Halloween costumes that show everything that is scarily. Do you
know the single most selling costume this year in North America? It is a gown
put on by doctors in West Africa to protect them from Ebola when they are
treating an Ebola patient. Thy are selling as a hot cake that in this city
today we have only one store that has a stock. Everything is sold for every
parent and every kid wants to show how scarily he/she is because he/she is an
Ebola virus. Friends, Africa has so been devastated by Ebola and many families
have been affected. The numbers from WHO state that West Africa has lost so far
5,000 people, West Africans are putting the number to 15,000 dead so far. How
can anyone turn around and use such a terrible disease for a fun as a Halloween
costume? For think about it, September 11, 2001 two planes flew into the
towers and 3,000 people died, 13 years today since the New York tragedy, have
you ever seen a single Halloween costume with two planes flying into New York
towers and blowing them up? Well it is scarily why not create it? If we cannot
create a costume of September 11 which happened 13 years ago, how dare we as
Africans agree to let the Ebola costume used this Halloween when people are
still dropping dead? And I am just asking !!!!!!
And here is your response, Edward Pojim, WBK, Professor George Ayittey, George
Okello, Okello Nekyon, Gwokto and many Africans out there, have no problem if
an Ebola costume is done to sell come this Halloween, and they have no reason
going after it. But if you dare make a costume out of September 11, they will
themselves stand up and call you an insensitive man and a stupid African. Five
days after the charge of hate crime they will line up to be the first witnesses
against you for what you have done is so anti whites. Their first line of
defense shows up before whites take a stand. So here is my question, are these
Africans lead by African dictators? The answer is no they are in Western
country cities. Are their decisions forced by Iddi Amin? No because Amin
actually is dead. Is it Gaddafi? No for he is dead too. Is it by Charles Tylor?
No for he was found guilty and sentenced. Tell me what African bad leader is
actually crafting their decisions today? Why can’t they defend their own
continent when it is abused as such? Why do they find it of more interest to
defend other races than their very own? Stop hunting for African solutions
because we were simply created fucked !!!! ------> { Oui désolé pour
mon français !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! }
SSalongo Ssenoga, leka ng’ende nebake Omwana wo’muffu !!!!!!
Lyeeza.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
From: [email protected]
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 6:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: SV: {UAH} Uganda is in a crisis: how did it get there and how will
it come out?
Ssekajja,
History helps to understand where we came from and intelligent people learn
from past mistakes in order to avoid repeating them (history never repeats
itself as we often hear, but it is the mistakes in history that are often
repeated). To deny that mistakes were made in Obote I and II and all regimes
that have led our country will be committing unforgivable crime. For example,
the 1966 crisis could have been handled differently and the exaggerated 1980
election malpractices could have been addressed logically not through banditry.
Well, mistakes were made but the most important thing should have been avoiding
the same. How can NRM for example be blamed for election malpractices or
undemocratic practices when it went to the bush to correct the same? What that
implies is that the leadership envied the wrong things the past regimes
committed and prayed they get chance to do the same. That is the explanation I
can give. Not long ago, Kakoza Mutale was notoriously beating up anyone who
never supported NRM, is that what liberators do?
Eric has good points of view but my concerns come from his/our failure to
translate them into action. Yes, non-violent approaches to national
transformation is good just as the method's name suggests; so when is this
non-violent approach taking shape? Who is leading it, and where are the
leaders, or put in another way, where will it take place? What mechanisms have
been put in place to stop IGP Kale Kayihura from tear-gassing and water-bonding
people? Eric should tell us when this non-violent approach is starting and what
is stopping it from taking off. May be the military option preferred by some
people will have no place if Ugandans see how effective the non-violent
approach.
I think Eric may have to face courts of law in future if the country slides
into anarchy; his offense will be refusing to take a good action that could
have saved the country; he knows what to do but is not acting; it is some kind
of treason, you know. Can the lawyers in this forum help me here, will there be
a good case against Eric?
Peter Simon
On Saturday, October 25, 2014 4:41 PM, ssekajja via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
Community < <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]> wrote:
Ocaya,
You miss the point, and will never facilitate in redeeming this nation, when
you fail to see the damage done by Obote. But we all have to realise that
Museveni makes Obote mistakes look like angels misdemeanours.
Ssekajja
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From: 'Ocaya Mike pOcure' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community <
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>
To: Ugandans-at-heart < <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Oct 25, 2014 09:12 PM
Subject: SV: {UAH} Uganda is in a crisis: how did it get there and how will it
come out?
Fellow Ugandans,
It is quite unfortunate that every failure in politics Uganda continued to
heaped on the late OBOTE Milton (RIP). Let us not forget that the genocide
launching pad in the infamous Luwero triangle jungle which was engineered by
the folks from South-western Uganda under the commands of both Bakiga and
Ankole with strong supports from Buganda. But, for the continuous 30 years and
still counting Prof Kashambuzi and cahoots have failed to do any corrections of
the massive wrongs of the political games by the late OBOTE (RIP).
They have to invent lies upon lies to whitewash their ineptitudes, which are
just only to dupe those blind Ugandan infamous ethnic majorities but not the
whole Ugandans! One wonders what is the reason behind this latest move by Prof
Kashambuzi and cahoots since he is just trying to conceal the dictatorship of
the NRA/M7ism? This is pathetic. Why had they failed for the continuous 30
years without making any true democratic institution in Uganda, but just to
blame the late OBOTE (RIP) for their own failures? Ugandans need some better
explanation Mw Kashambuzi!
Ocaya pOcure
Den lördag, 25 oktober 2014 13:41 skrev 'docaporg org' via Ugandans at Heart
(UAH) Community < <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]>:
Hie Eric you have tried hard to analyse this issue and i give you compliments
for this but you haven't given any viable solutions. The solution lies with the
people of Uganda and non other than them has the capacity to decide.
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:07 AM, Eric Kashambuzi <
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
That Uganda is in a serious crisis politically, economically, socially,
environmentally and culturally is not in doubt. What are in doubt are the
causes and possible solutions. This has given rise to a number of groups
pointing fingers at one another. In the interest of time and space, I will
focus on the salient points.
There are those led by Bishop Zac Niringiye and General David Sejusa who argue
that it is Museveni and his family alone – his wife, son and brother that are
responsible and should be held accountable. With Museveni and his family out of
the way NRM will be able to get Uganda back on the right track and continue to
govern under a new leadership. The term Musevenism has been coined to link all
Uganda problems to Museveni.
There are those led by radio munansi who argue that Banyankole are responsible
for the suffering of Uganda since 1986 and they alone should be held to
account.
There are those who think that Baganda that have never accepted integration
into Uganda on an equal basis with the rest of Ugandans are responsible for a
big part of Uganda troubles including the current debate about
self-determination with secession as an option.
There are those who go back to the time of independence and argue that it is
Obote and the people he groomed including Amin and Museveni that are the root
cause of the problem. London-based Musaja Gyagenda has been championing this
cause relentlessly. Any Ugandan whose political views he doesn’t like he
associates him/her with Obote and UPC.
There are those who think that the main problem is the unregulated influx of
foreigners – legally seeking work, illegal immigrants and refugees. Through his
policy statements that Ugandan has plenty of unutilized arable land and water
resources and needs foreigners to assist in Uganda’s rapid economic development
Museveni has encouraged massive influx of foreigners mostly from the
neighboring countries that have occupied good jobs and taken over the private
sector and assets especially land from indigenous Ugandans.
There are those who think that inequality in access to education, healthcare
and jobs have created social groups and tensions between the rich and poor,
employed and unemployed and have contributed to the crisis.
There are those who believe that Museveni thinks the crisis is in his
administration and has forced him to temporarily or permanently transfer some
key advisers including Kutesa to the United Nations, Sejusa to London,
Nyakairima to the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Mbabazi who has gone on
leave.
There are those who think that NRM as a whole is messy and must be unseated
from power, with no allowance for a compromise to form a government of national
unity.
The solutions also vary. There are those who want a military solution because
that is the language that Museveni understands. This group is led by Sejusa and
his confidant Amii Otunnu who previously advocated democracy and good
governance as solutions and Duncan Kafero with the backing of radio munansi and
foreign recruits in his outfit as he confirmed on radio munansi.
There are those in the footsteps of Gandhi that want non-violent resistance.
Their argument is that more authoritarian regimes have been unseated by
non-violent means than through violence. The Hague Process on peace, security
and development in Uganda has adopted the non-violent approach to regime change
in Uganda.
There are those who want significant reduction of central government power that
has suffocated regional, district and community ability to take decisions that
affect their lives. This group is calling for federalism or confederalism. Once
agreed the 1995 constitution would be amended to reflect these new political
dimensions that no one party can change unilaterally.
There is the extreme group of Baganda that want secession or independence from
the rest of Uganda. This is the group that has been very disappointed that
Scotland did not vote for independence from Britain. The recent decision that
the government of Catalonia in Spain has also decided not to go for a
referendum on its secession from Spain has added frustration to those Baganda
that had hoped to use these two cases if they had succeeded in forcing NRM to
grant Buganda independence.
There are those who think that the different groups in the opposition should
stop criticizing one another regardless of their diverging philosophies and
just get together to force NRM out of power and then address their differences
once in power. History lessons don’t lend support to this approach. More often
than not revolutions by different groups that have one common goal of unseating
an oppressive regime degenerated into civil wars because there was nothing to
bind them together after the revolution had been accomplished.
The group that I belong to is of the view that winner take all is not a wise
solution. Instead let all Ugandans come together except those alleged to have
committed war crimes, crimes against humanity or genocide and form a
transitional government under a presidential commission with a representative
from each of Uganda regions. The government besides conducting the normal
affairs of state would organize a comprehensive population census to determine
who and how many we are, identify development needs and use this information at
a national convention that would debate and decide how Ugandans wish to be
governed. To succeed in this endeavor we need to put the interests of Uganda
ahead of personal ambitions. We are all Ugandans first and foremost. Our
diversity if properly nurtured is a tremendous asset. Let us keep that in mind.
We are stronger acting together than separately, explaining in part why
Scotland voted against independence.
Eric Kashambuzi is an international consultant on development issues. He lives
in New York
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