John Kwitonda
As you start to hold public discussion on Uganda politics, be very careful and
stop to invite Ugandans to join Uganda politics, we already have more than
enough Ugandans in politics as it is. Ugandans join it for it is the major
employer in the country, but Ugandans join it for it is the only breast on
which they feed. And that within its self has become a problem for Besigye is
not in politics for he loves the country but because it is his only economical
income. Men like Tinyefunza have gone home for they realized that if they
remain out of Uganda, life is going to be very hard for you need to work daily
but pay your bills daily which Ugandans at home never do.
But let me go to the major point I need to raise to you tonight, Uganda a very
tinny country, about a size of The state of Oregon or less than a third of
Ontario province has about 385 Members of parliament, and about 80 ministers if
you include the deputy ministers. Ontario has 26 ministers or there about.
Vast as the government you have today, there has been a thread in this very
forum where Ugandans are asking for 50 more MPs to represent Ugandans like me
in diaspora, so to Ugandans we need to get the 385 and add on another 50 to get
a functioning parliament.
I disagree. What you need is to remodel that country to about 25 districts and
get about 25 MPs then get about 15 ministers. Many of the so called Uganda
ministries can be swallowed up, for example why can’t we put the ministry of
information as a parastatal body under president’s office? Do we need a
minister of gender? What does that one do? What is the difference between
women MP and an MP? And why not a men MP? Fire all women representative MPs,
now when you show up in embassies get the embassy of London to take care of all
Europe, but maintain the embassy in Paris fire all of the rest. Leave New York
and Washington but I would close Ottawa and make it a consular office in
Toronto and Vancouver or Winnipeg. An embassy must produce enough money for
Uganda to be self-reliant so that Uganda government does not fund them, if you
are not raising enough funds for the country shut down. If we have an East
African Community why do we have embassies in those countries?
But stop to think that owning a degree means you are intelligent men that have
transformed our country have been illiterate as Iddi Amin, men that have
commanded our army best are Mustafa that never went to school. What we need is
to get Ugandans that love their country as Iddi Amin and allow them to lead it.
And do you know why? What we need is very basic, good schools, functioning
hospitals, good roads and good governance, even a firkin Monkey can send money
to Apotex to get medication to Mulago hospital. Cut down degree holders that
you keep on employing into these institutions and allow my mother to run Mulago
hospital. You will be very surprised at what you will get.
After you have cut down on the forest of politicians, turn around and write a
good paper guiding leaders on how to lead. What is our expectations of them and
what happens if they fail to deliver. With that you will get a functioning
government. The reason Amin had medication in hospitals was very simple, he
sent you to buy it and that is what you had to do sir. There was never a
failure in serving the country under Iddi Amin. With such a paper, even
Museveni can be a very good president.
I am not joining Uganda politics what you need is to actually chase me out of
it.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:21 AM
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Subject: Re: {UAH} JOHN KWITONDA ARE YOU SERIOUSILLY PREACHING FOR MBABAZI?
the problem with you elites is one.you want to do away with dictators, yes, you
provide no solutions or you dont offer yourselves. what do you expects poor
peasants from nakyeswa to do? these are the guys now who have declred their
intentions. it is only those who stand that the president will be elected. i
dont see any solutions you are offering. whether you want it or not, if there
are alternative, on of them wil still be in statehouse. think about it.
this lamenting solves no problem.me <http://problem.me> thinks so
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:13 PM, 'Rhita' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH) Community
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> wrote:
Edward,
This my favourite posting from you. I totally agree with you- 103%
It surprises me that John is been hypnotized into recycling the same old
oppressor....
Mbabazi & M7 served in Obote's regime b4 staging the so called hypocritical
liberation war which killed millions of UGANDANS.
John despises Other parties buts keeps supporting the same old recycled
political ways of these likes- how can an evidenced greedy man like JPAM
support federalism?
He is in it for himself, just as he was then in UPC, in NRM and now. How can
you trust him?
These people have destroyed our country to the extent that Uganda will be no
more in the coming century. They have sold off everything, only left with
pimping themselves.
John, be very careful with what you're wishing for. It might be at no cost, but
there needs to be a complete new change of governance in Uganda.
These criminals need to retire at best or kept in far away prisons- away from
true Ugandans.
Rhita
Sent from my ideal world
On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
There is a winner, many Ugandans have made a whack of money, and many have
sold our assets, appointments are flying out of state house to the latest being
Ocwet sir. Mbabzi is a winner as well for now he has you a firm supporter. And
I opine that we are not going to create change in this country until when we
stop to support people through desperation. I think Uganda needs a new hands
on the deck than picking a man that was in state research bureau. There are
those of us that need an investigation in what that organization did, you are
cutting us directly off because Mbabazi will never offer it. There are those of
us that need an investigation in Museveni government, and the billions of money
to Northern Uganda that got lost while in Mbabazi’s office, you are cutting us
directly off because Mbabzi will never offer it. Do we again want a government
in Uganda that will not sit with people to examine our past and why we have
ended up this way?
John Kwitonda we do not need Museveni out of office we need The entire Movement
out or leave Museveni alone for I am tired of circles and chasing Uganda
political tail.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
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but what would have been the difference? in a sinking boat ,there is no winner
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
John
And I have seen this very terrible reasoning already when you wanted Obote and
UPC to leave power. You supported Museveni to start with not for he had a
political agenda but he was the only man capable to remove Obote from power.
Some of us warned you over and over that Museveni is going to be a very
terrible leader, and you told us that the single largest problem you have is
Obote and UPC, and if Museveni can remove him from power so be it. All Rwandese
were imported and all foreigners as Barundi were accepted in your homes, for
they were the only people to remove UPC from power. It was a such a bad base of
reasoning then as it is now. And now you are preaching to me how the man that
held your salvation is a terrible man? May be you need to put a break on your
thinking and reason better for the path forward.
Man I think I have lived too long for right now I am already in dejavu.
Ge’ez !!!!!
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
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you dont get me t all. I want to see the back of the two as soon as yesterday.
one of them has beeb a guest in statehouse for 30 yrs now. he doesnt show any
sign of leaving or doesnt seem to care whether there are other guests who want
to occupy the house. it is natural for people to have ambitions and take on
the big job but someone has made it difficulty for Ugandans who have the
ambition to try their luck. just look at the reaction after the man declared.
it was as if the heavens were falling.
it is this very reaosn that i support whoever can take him in the name of
democracy to challenge him internally.my question still stands why doesnt he
want internal challlenge? if you are strong enough you just say, bring it on,
but bribing MPS to ring fence the position, shows how weak someone can be. that
excites me alot. he is not as strong as people think. lets see th beginning of
internal democracy within parties not family rule
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
John Kwitonda
But Museveni was never born with powers, they were created by a whole lot of
numbers of Ugandans. Men like Oyite Ojoke that sat with him in private meetings
to make political decisions, men like Jon Ogole that created a very terrible
hate of UPC in Luwero district, men like Ocen Nekyon that agreed to serve in
UNAA an arm of The Movement, men like Paul Muwanga that allowed him to steal
weapons out of the police stations. And this list is long, but among those is
Amama Mbabazi that built, served but defended such a terrible government. If
Mbabazi built and served such a terrible government for Museveni, how terrible
will his government be when he creates his own? Good sources are telling us
that actually Museveni became very uncomfortable with Dr Kiiza Besigye and the
laws he was trying to put on Uganda books to de-construct UPC, Museveni warned
him that they are too autocratic laws. Now seriously if Museveni feared the
laws Besigye was writing on Uganda books how terrible will the laws be that he
will push in Uganda if he ever gets to power? But lastly how far will you go in
support of a leader if he promises you Federalism? Would you support Konny to
be a president if he promises you federalism? One can ponder.
John politics is never a profession, that man has been in politics since Iddi
Amin’s government, he needs to go.
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
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im supporting democracy. i dont want people ring fencing positions for
themselves and their spouses while preaching democracy. internal democracy is
as important.only fools and those afraid of competition will ring fence because
they are not sure of a win. if Mbabazi can deliver on federalism for Uganda, he
will have my backing. they are all fighting because of this monster unitarism
gives them too much power.
Aman sits in state house and gives out cash likes he geting form his shop?
this must stop ,no country had prospered by dishing out cash like that.
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
John Kwitonda
Your reasoning is exactly as Simon Peter Okurut let alone Allan Barigye, simply
put, very frustrating. And look you are preaching for Mbabazi, but for the very
first time in the history of Uganda all the carnivorous animals (Lion, Hyena,
Wolf and Cheetah) = Museveni, Mbabazi, Besigye, Sejjusa and Mugisha Muntonyera
are gathering for the 2016 kill. The lion (Museveni) has already made his
kill...he has already rigged and won the 2016 Election. The rest of the
scavengers (Byesigye, Sejjusa, Mbabazi and Muntonyera) will be fighting over
the carcass. What is going to follow immediately after the election chaos is
violence that has never been seen before in the country, it will be referred to
as close combat. Let us remember that Museveni, Mbambazi, Muntonyera, Sejjusa
and Besigye are all hardened killers with no remorse. Museveni has been killing
since 1971. If Uganda survives the 2016 storm, then we should know for sure
that it will survive much longer and may pull out of the sinkhole around 2050
after the current generation is gone. Those who become fathers and mothers
after 2016, should spend more time with those babies as that is the only
generation that will revive and grow Uganda after the cannibals are all gone.
And remember that this analysis is only Kampala based , excluding The Acholi
factor, a people that have trained their children to murder people from as
early as age 9. But as a critical thinker I wonder how you run a country
without investigating mistakes of past governments to create better laws, for
Mbabazi has served in Museveni government, how will we get a fair investigation
on Museveni government under Mbabazi?
You are screwed up today for you supported Museveni for you were fade up with
Obote, why are you supporting Mbabazi for you are fade up with Museveni?
EM
On the 49th Parallel
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja and Dr. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni, Ssabassajja na Dk. Kiiza Besigye, Uganda ni katika
machafuko"
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<mailto:[email protected]>
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and Constitutional Stance
he is not the solution as yet now, but again we have to give him a chance. if
he can remove this man who is showing signs of going,30 yrs on he wants to die
with ugandans, lets welcome whoever can help make the change. we shall sort
the rest later .this man is going nowhere and if we continue discouraging
whoever comes up, where will you get a mr .perfect in uganda? he is not
there.lets first get rid of these potato growers and their man, then ugandans
sort out the rest
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Frank Mujabi <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
John
Mbabazi's just points out what is wrong with Uganda which we have all been
saying for years.
Since he has been the second most powerful man in M7's govt, he is responsible
for choosing the thousands of Un and semi educated and greedy people from
western Uganda
who have mismanaged and stolen all resources they can lay their hands on.
I don't think that he is the solution to Uganda's problem.
Sent from my iPhone
On 15 Jun 2015, at 20:20, john kwitonda <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
the problem these potato growers are crying is that all along they have given
ugandans nothing worth talking about.now, these issues are critical and are
rubbing them the wrong way. that s why we are going to see many of them on
media houses they want to close down.the worst enemy is an enemy within.
let them argue oint by point of what the man has fed ugandans and we see if he
is wrong. let ugandans decide for themselves and not these sycophants and NRM
police
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:11 PM, 'Hannah Ogwapiti' via Ugandans at Heart (UAH)
Community <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
Former Premier The Hon. John Patrick Mbabazi has declared and offered himself
to breathe new life in Uganda's democratic, governance and human development
challenges. To be honest,I like some of the key issues he dwelled on: 1) Making
Uganda work not just for the rich mafuta mingi, but for everyone; 2) Making it
fit for the 21st century and beyond by focusing of fair, equitable and quality
delivery of public services; 3) Redressing threats to the self-governing hopes
and dreams of democratic Uganda; 4) Reinstating the promise of government
accountability and transparency to citizens at all levels. These are very
critical issues that any leader and all Ugandans should be equally concerned
about!!! Let's be true to ourselves, Uganda in its current state is not working
for all, and certainly,is far from what a 21st century democratic and resource
rich society should look like. Those who have had the opportunity to appreciate
the pace of development in other countries both in Africa and beyond would
agree that Uganda in many respects appears to have rolled back to stone
age-like times.
Our country is endowed with all these natural resources; which if exploited
sustainably, managed prudently and redistributed fairy would transform the
lives of millions. We would then be elevated to the status of a middle income
country; not just in GDP measures, but rather in the actual quality of life we
live day in, day out. Such is the kind of society Ugandans should be yearning
and actively fighting for regardless of which political party is in government.
The saddest fact however is that with each passing day, the power and channels
through which we as citizens can rightfully demand for such a society; and hold
our leaders to account should they fail to deliver, are being systematically
taken from us under our very watch. If this happens, our survival is then tied
to the rare benevolence of those we have delegated to lead us (who as we have
often witnessed always act in their best interest, not ours). We are then
reduced to beggars in our own homes,entreating a system to which we pay our
hard earned taxes. Whatever happened to the idea of social contract in
Uganda!!!!!
In many other progressive societies, citizens were quick to understand that
tying their livelihood and survival to mere individuals was too risky a venture
to tolerate. This lesson was often drawn from real life events where seemingly
good, able and dedicated leaders turned violent, ruthless and uncompromising.
Thus out of popular struggle, citizens in these societies set aside their
individual differences and joined hands to reclaim their power, their liberty,
their freedoms, their rights, hence their lives. Such was the case for example
in 13th century Britain (where the Magna Carta was forced on King John) or 18th
France (The Declaration of the Rights of Man).
To avert the possibility of future, mismanagement of power by individuals, the
task and indeed the solution was often to build strong systems and support
development of institutional mechanisms by which societies would be governed,
and leaders held to account. In contemporary society, top on the list of such
'power check' institutions are a People's Parliament and the Judiciary (to
function effectively, both should be independent). The most important framework
all however is a fair, rights-embedded and pro people Constitutional and Legal
framework. The others (Parliaments and the Judiciary) only act to prevent
selfish manipulation /amendment of the Constitution. Yet to be acceptable, the
Constitutional framework must itself provide to every man, woman, and child
equal justice,equal opportunity, and equal dignity without discrimination.
Hence any amendments to the constitution are justified in my opinion only on
two fronts:1) To the extent that provisions enshrined within the existing
framework violate the fundamental premises of equal justice, equal opportunity,
equal dignity; and 2) That depending on changing times, there is need to
include within the existing framework new provisions that are in line with the
principles outlined above. Thus in societies where these three institutions
exist, are socially sanctioned and function effectively, citizens can be
somewhat assured that individual interest will not override public interest and
common good. If there is any one leader or a group of people acting contrary to
the common good, citizens through the above institutional mechanisms can
challenge and overcome those forces until a pro people state of equilibrium is
re-established.
Quickly taking this discussion to our own society, one would almost agree that
in many respects, such an institutional framework by which we can influence and
determine how we are governed remains wanting. To begin with, we elect people
to represent us in Parliament (often after extorting money from them in
exchange for the vote). Ironically, this is the first of the many steps through
which we give up power (this time it is not even seized from us). We then
expect that successful candidates will constitute a pro people parliament; an
institution that serves national interest, one the citizens can hold to
account. Incidentally, the men and women in suites are no fools at all!!! From
experience, they know that the power is a preserve of Ssabalwanyi; and not in
the hands of the electorates. You shouldn’t be surprised then that your
parliament (at least the majority) can vote in favor of a law that further
curtails the basic rights of citizens; or that they can make a decision today,
and overturn it the next, subsequent to a retreat in Kyankwanzi or that other
place.
Am sure the tribulations of the Judiciary are also public knowledge. Where else
in a democracy have you witnessed public courts being stormed by heavily armed
goons in broad daylight, who just ferry away defendants to some unknown
location; and nobody ever questions that kind of impunity and insanity??? Where
else in a democracy would a country go two whole years without a substantive
Chief Justice; or where a tax payer remunerated court clerk refuses to accept a
petition from a litigant, and yet goes unpunished???
And finally, the survival of the constitutional framework rests on the extent
to which the other two institutions (Parliaments and the Judiciary) are
autonomous and effective (which doesn’t seem to be the case in Uganda). Any
constitutional amendments must be presented to and approved by the same
Parliament, whose misery we have already unveiled. Thus if the amendment
process is itself in question, institutions within the Justice, Law and Order
Sector (JLOS) among other; courts, police and prisons can only implement the
output of a fraudulent system (the garbage in, garbage out theory). No wonder
that some amendments to the Constitution of Uganda have been marred by heated
controversies, notably the lifting of the presidential age limit. Do not forget
that Article one of the constitution goes: “All power belongs to the people,
who shall exercise their sovereignty in accordance with this Constitution”.
This makes this single document the supreme law by which we are governed and
through which we can exercise our sovereignty. While this would not be a
problem in itself, the pace and direction of amendments to our own invite us to
reconsider both the present and future survival of our democratic balance and
state of constitutional governance.
Now back to where we started: Listening to Hon. John Patrick Amama Mbabazi’s
address (see linked video) it would seem that such are the questions he
promises to address (at least some of them). Whether or not he will come
through to as he calls it ‘breathe new life’ into the state of governance and
the democratization process in Uganda ultimately depends on the answers and
attendant justifications each of you country folks can provide to this
question!!! Do the principles, the will and the institutional mechanisms
required to further Uganda’s quest for a true, sustainable and pro people
constitutional governance and democratic dispensation exist within the National
Resistance Movement (NRM) as a political group?
For God and Our Country
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