On 6 September 2011 00:17, Ben Laurie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> a) Who cares? PGP is for email and other online transactions, your
> government (or whatever) issued ID is irrelevant.
>

Not just for email - it's very useful for cryptographic signatures for many
applications. I'd be happy to discuss it with you either during Q&A or
during the day if you'd like. I am by no means an expert, just someone who
has received the talk one too many times and has offered to re-gurgitate my
experiences.

The Government issued ID allows me to assert that you are not just a random
person passing yourself off as someone else to help them get as many
signatures as possible. High quality forgeries will fool me, but if you're
performing high quality forgeries there are better ways of manipulating the
system than getting me to sign your key. Should someone realise the
documents are indeed forgeries, that person is more than likely going to
raise the alarm and potentially email all the signatures asking for a
revocation of the signatures to that key.


> b) Who is qualified to check such documents?


You are. You're confirming that the person who has submitted their key is
the same person in the ID you are inspecting. There are levels of trust you
can set within GPG so that you can set a particular person as "ultimately
trusted" right down to "I don't really trust at all".

Some people go to extremes and publish signing policies on what kind of ID
checks get which level of trust, but I just mark everyone that satisfies my
simple criteria as "I trust" in verifying others IDs. I, for instance, don't
set an expiry date on my key, which has caused some people to "trust" me
less. If you don't agree with my stance on the keysigning, don't sign my key
- or if you do, sign it with very weak trust. It's not rude, it's not snide,
it's just that you have a higher sense of security than I do.

On a similar note, I wouldn't do key-signing at all if it involved
responsible third parties with suitable qualifications in order to verify
the authenticity of documents because it has then slipped from being trivial
to being a chore. The primary reason I sign keys is not to enhance the web
of trust through my new connections (though that is a key benefit) but in
meeting new and interesting people.

I hope we can have a brief chat about it tomorrow, as I have to be up in 5
hours to drive to Bristol ;)

Matthew Walster


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