Hi Gord,

? http://www.artemis.com/pcell
Be interested to learn if anybody has got under the veil of this one?

Christian

Gord Slater wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9 December 2014 at 13:32, Richard Halfpenny
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>     On 09/12/2014 11:37, Peter Knapp wrote:
>     > I spent quite a while on this with a couple of larger multi-vendor WAP
>     > distributors and they have clients of the big exhibition centres and
>     > music venues, and they use extremely steerable APs with shielding, much
>     > as you do with an audio line array if you are familiar, and don’t have
>     > anywhere near the number of users per AP you are citing.
> 
>     +1, the antenna/RF design will make or break this kind of solution.
> 
> 
> as an RF guy, I approve this message.
> 
> In fact, you might be forced to use "bad antennaes" like leaky feeders
> placed in metal troughs or spaced above them as corner reflectors under
> a raised floor to get stuff to work best, to limit the numbers of
> devices per physical radio. 

neat..

> 
> I've had to pick up the total mess of this on several SCADA-type
> fitments. It can only be worse for one-off events where failure is not
> an option. I had to borrow over 300 humans to move around carrying
> sensors to prove one fitment didn't work the way the vendor said it did.
> Fine when you have minimum wage people that are bored. Some of the bods
> I had to borrow were on 150k+ a year and very pissed off to be in a cold
> icy refinery -  one of my worst ever site visits; so, so glad I'm
> retired from site ops like that now.

not geeks then

> .
> Beamsteering, $latest-craze and "software solutions" are unhelpful above
> a certain empirical threshold. You simply cannot break the laws of
> physics by even a tiny fraction of a percent. If you do exceed the
> *known* laws, please document it, make it repeatable and become rich and
> famous.  Otherwise, you've been conned :) 
> 
see above
> -- 
> sent via Gmail web interface, so please excuse my gross neglect of
> Netiquette

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Christian de Larrinaga

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