I can echo that, years ago we provided SDSL over MPF's with no detectable conditions on the line including a wetting current. The result was as described with the added fun of the line joints corroding causing further issues.
At the end of the day you need a copper pair to carry your broadband and that has to be paid for. Openreach were considering trialling a bundled FTTC product that delivers the copper pair transparently as part of the service to only deliver broadband, I think the issue they hit was lack of dial tone and voltage on the line. -----Original Message----- From: uknof [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben King Sent: 22 March 2016 21:17 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [uknof] BT deny demand for broadband without a dial tone Honestly, as an SLU provider who has offered MPF (D-side only/no dial tone) for years, you don't want it! We are plagued with 'pair theft' on MPF, mostly 3rd party contractors to BT who are ignoring the supplied allocation data, working back from the DP to install a new line in the same location, they listen for a tone, there is no tone (Or any line conditions), so they nick the pair, by the time they have pushed the pair back to the PCP and seen the warning notices, it's too late and they move on to their next job leaving our customer high n dry. Trust me, pay the few extra quid and enjoy the warm security of a dial tone. Regards... Ben Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Mar 2016, at 20:57, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]> wrote: > > "Dodgy practises" - "Effectively admitted" > > What a load of old codswallop! > > Paul - get a hobby or a pet or something - and soon - please! > > Of course BT is the only company that charges line rental. > >>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 17:56, Paul Mansfield <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 22 March 2016 at 17:44, Joseph Waite wrote: >>>> >>>> On 22 Mar 2016, at 17:12, Paul Mansfield <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> "Householders signing up for broadband packages could be exempted >>>> from the rental charge on their landline if they don't use it, >>>> under >>> But the cost will just be added to the broadband so won't actually >>> effect the cost. But might lead to more transparent pricing! >> >> Initially it will, but transparency may lead to BT's dodgy practices >> being more open to examination. >> For example, BT effectively admitted that line rental charges >> cross-subsidise the TV service and other things: >> >> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JwAhiHBnn5U/VvGGa7H7OQI/AAAAAAAAXp >> s/xg_r8zaoywArf0j8f9jkLhttmvQVPtywgCCo/s720-Ic42/IMG_20160208_075828. >> jpg >> >> I was about to rip up the letter for recycling, but took a photo, so >> sorry about the poor quality. > -- ------------------------------ The Networking People (NorthWest) Limited. Registered office: c/o Hanleys, Spring Court, Hale, Cheshire, WA14 2UQ. Registered in England & Wales with company number: 07667393 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited.
