Well said. There's been a lot of nonsense said about BT Wholesale over this. 
Ultimately if the box you connect to loses power then it doesn't matter who 
your provider is, you will lose that feed.

We are a BT WBMC customer and a TalkTalk LLU customer and we take feeds from 
both providers in London and Manchester. When Telehouse killed the power to 
BT's suite in London their network repointed everything to our feed in 
Manchester within minutes - it was a blip, not a major outage. Similarly when 
TalkTalk have issues and lose London everything fails over to Manchester as you 
would want it to.

Both BT Wholesale and TalkTalk Business are big enough and mature enough 
network operators to have very decent core resilience. But as a customer you 
need to understand the resilience on offer and connect your network into it 
properly. If you build your network to rely on any single point of failure then 
the only guarantee is that at some point that will fail, no matter who your 
provider is. Anyone blaming BT for the fact that they were affected by the 
Telehouse power issue should be looking at their own network design instead and 
just moving your single point of failure isn't the answer.

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: uknof [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Bensley
Sent: 28 July 2016 09:03
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [uknof] BT Outage?

On 28 July 2016 at 06:40, Neil J. McRae <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 24 Jul 2016, at 17:48, Paul Webb <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Well we’ve just moved all our lines to TTB from BT WBMC (mostly for
> better FTTC performance) and our main POP is THN….but not a blip last
> week, everything was fine …thank goodness we moved from BTW J
>
>  I think that's the funniest thing I've ever read!

Moving all your ADSL lines from the biggest wholesale LLU provider in the UK to 
probably the second biggest. We thought about it for about 5 minutes because 
TalkTalk are offering significant cost savings, but really, you moved all your 
eggs which were in one basket, to a new single basket. You don't think it best 
to split across the two instead?  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


James.


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