Hi there, regards to PBX's I believe 3CX is now Multi Tenant. Might be worth 
you taking a look as a non Asterix based platform.


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   2. Re: Virgin Media - Edinburgh, St Andrew Square (Peter Knapp)
   3. Re: Multi-tenant PBX Solution (James Bensley)
   4. Re: Virgin Ethernet Extension (James Bensley)
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Bit of a long shot; anyone on here have VM at the above location?

Have been spun a yarn and day before digging and installing (tomorrow) they've 
now said they can't do it..despite 2 previous visits.

Would appreciate a contact at VM/contractors for a detailed explanation as to 
why.

Ta,

Mart

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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 09:53:42 +0000
From: Peter Knapp <[email protected]>
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Your VM account manager / planner should be able to tell you the reasons why 
assuming you?ve contracted the service of course.

We have a delivery in Hanover Street which is 2 mins walk from the square, 
which has been beset with issues and is dragging for a whole list of reasons. I 
wonder if there is a connection in some way.

Peter Knapp


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Subject: [uknof] Virgin Media - Edinburgh, St Andrew Square

Bit of a long shot; anyone on here have VM at the above location?

Have been spun a yarn and day before digging and installing (tomorrow) they've 
now said they can't do it..despite 2 previous visits.

Would appreciate a contact at VM/contractors for a detailed explanation as to 
why.

Ta,

Mart

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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 11:03:48 +0100
From: James Bensley <[email protected]>
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I've had good success at a former job with
https://integrics.com/enswitch/ which is a multi-tenant PBX.

Its Asterix under the hood for call routing with their custom
application over the top for all the jazzy features. So its Asterix +
MySQL (you can use MariaDB) + Apache so you can virtuaise it and scale
it.

So you can pay for support but still extend Asterix as you please. We
built a custom hand set provisioning tool, added custom call features
directly in Asterix etc.


Cheers,
James.



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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 11:25:10 +0100
From: James Bensley <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [uknof] Virgin Ethernet Extension
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Bit late to this thread.

Further to Charlie's input, if you take an NE/NE+ service request and
end-to-end MTU check beforehand if you need >1600 MTU. We've had
issues were a NE+ circuit for which the NTE supports an MTU up to 2032
won't go above something smaller (exact value escapes me right now) -
one of the MetNets it passes through is old with a low MTU.

We've also had NE+ circuits where we have asked if we can raise the
MTU to support jumbo frames, but we couldn't go above 4470 because
there are SDH/SONET MetNets in the middle, but this has been possible
on other circuits.

Also don't forget their SLAs are pants, 30ms or something. We've have
multiple VM NNI's and we've had issues where the PoP that feeds that
PoP that our NNI is on, has been congested so our NNI is affected
(packet loss across all VNO circuits there), increasing the latency on
them all from circa 10ms to just under 30ms so its still within SLA
but inter site delay is nearly 60ms for two sites on the same NNI
(which is no better than ADSL), and VM they have been very slow to
recover it.

Also most NE/NE+ circuits are pseudowires across their core. I think
the control-word is disabled by default. We have had several instances
where we have requested they enabled the pseudowire control-word for
that circuit and the issues have been reduced (like out of order
packets or jitter). Might be worth ordering all circuits with the
control-word enabled by default.


Cheers,
James.



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 10:26:33 +0000
From: Richard Smith <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [uknof] Multi-tenant PBX Solution
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On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 at 11:05 James Bensley <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've had good success at a former job with
> https://integrics.com/enswitch/ which is a multi-tenant PBX.
>
> Its Asterix under the hood for call routing with their custom
> application over the top for all the jazzy features. So its Asterix +
> MySQL (you can use MariaDB) + Apache so you can virtuaise it and scale
> it.
>
> So you can pay for support but still extend Asterix as you please. We
> built a custom hand set provisioning tool, added custom call features
> directly in Asterix etc.
>

I try not to put my oar in to things much when it comes to VoIP discussions
generally since many of my employers' customers inhabit the same lists...
and it looks bad when you bad mouth products they use.[1]

However, it's worth noting that if you're going to be using Asterisk and
selling the product to your customers who will in turn rely solely on your
product for telephony, you need to make sure you're very aware and up to
speed on the legal aspects.

>From what I've seen implemented, read up on and inevitably replaced, it's
incredibly difficult to build a solution using Asterisk that would be able
to survive the test of general condition 4.[2]

Forget the shiny web UI, the billing interfaces, systems operations, etc;
if you can't maintain an call and lose half your network, you're setting
yourself up for a number of very big (and potentially expensive) headaches.

...just my 2p

 ~ Rich

[1] As many who know me will attest, mentioning asterisk in my presence
generally earns a scowl or some form of muttering...
[2] Out litmus tests for GC4 includes dropping the power on one-half of a
disparately located platform.
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