> can you state what speed - up and down - that BT considers to be > "good" and wants to be able to offer that to everybody, where > reasonably practicable? Would that be ADSL2+ speed, VDSL2+ speed?
Not sure ADSL or VDSL "speed" is the right way of putting this. > > For example, can a property which gets, say, ADSL2 with only 16Mb/s > down, 400Kb/s up, be considered good, acceptable or poor? That depends on what you are doing Paul! Can one watch HD movie on 16M - yes they can. Several! Can I kill gigamoth on counterstrike - yes I can. And to avoid being shot or Bill Gatesified you'll pardon me if don't given you my personal view. > And would BT be likely to actively invest to bring that up to FTTC > standard at 80M/20M or better? > We will invest where we can make a return and there will be a bunch of clueless folks scoffing at that. But let me tell you in our industry more than any other- ensuring you make a return is vital otherwise you find money drying up quickly and I worked for two other decent sized companies were the money dried up and then so did the business because returns were poor. We have worked with public organisations to bridge the "return gap" and even returned a huge amount of cash when locations turned positive. We have some stupid things such as EO lines that we need to do more to solve (but requires co-op from others who would rather they keep you on a slower platform). And yes over time I believe we will move away from ADSL as a solution. But remember some customers are only just getting ADSL2 now such are the economics of build. Our vision is FTTP everywhere (has been for some time) but that's a 10+ years (more like 20) or longer project. NGA and G.FAST are great ways to get more speed out quickly, check the pace of all the FTTP companies if you don't believe me - demand for these high speed services is very poor and if I look at customers on higher speed services few of them ever use more than 40-50M sustained . Did I mention we need to make a return? For it to be successful needs many things to change some are in our control some aren't- hence OR's consultation on this. What doesn't help is when the regulator decides to take a swipe at a fair bet investment... I love seeing community builds they help us remind how difficult this is and many of them are doing a great job but customers will eventually want more than these communities can often provide. Neil
