In my engagement with the government - their focus has been all about saving lives and minimising the impact of lockdown - I see zero evidence of what you claim.
They are also super focused on the law of the land, competition, data & privacy and net-neutrality amongst others. Maybe the duck suffers from paranoia, if the duck thinks people are out to get it? And of course if the duck wasn't so paranoid it would realise you can turn your phone off. I do agree with you that there are ways to collect this information that are better than others. Of course for those with quantum computing... On 18 Apr 2020, at 10:37, Paul Webb <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Neil ☺ No, not at all. My point isn’t really about the virus. Several academics and developers have shown workable designs using public/private key cryptography which share no data but do report proximity risks (a point I made to Jeremy Hunt Chair of the Health Select Committee this week). (see https://news.stanford.edu/2020/04/09/stanford-researchers-help-develop-privacy-focused-coronavirus-alert-app/ for one) The proposed app design aggressively collects and shares data, but with minimal data protection (storage outside of GDPR Zone, shared with all agencies etc. etc. plus of course the NHS’s prior poor record on data security). So is the objective of the app to warn of virus risk, or is it using best use of a crisis to implement tracking tech?? I think if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck…..it’s rarely just a coronavirus tracking app. Regards. Paul. P.S. but on the virus, a combination of asymptomatic carriers, lack of a reliable antibody test and a high probability it’ll mutate each year anyway like other coronaviruses, kinda suggests it won’t help anyway. From: Neil J. McRae [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 18 April 2020 10:00 To: Paul Webb <[email protected]. Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [uknof] Fwd: [IP] COVID-19 Internet Usage Update (US) I’ve been playing a lot of old text based RPG’s and your reply made me chuckle: “In the desert of good ideas you see in the horizon ahead, it’s looks like an ideas oasis, your party becomes excited! They run towards it, +1exp but sadly the oasis is but a mirage and all you find is Paul Webb (-50exp) and you realise that you are hallucinating and you are still stuck in the vast desert of good ideas.” I don’t think they are selling anything - frankly they don’t have to but I suspect given a choice of more of this and your family dying that selling this won’t be too hard. HMG are trying to use whats probably our best chance of getting back to some sort of normal quickly, and what is being used successfully in many parts of the world. If I look at the death rate in South Korea it’s hard to ignore the success they have had considering they have 20% less people in the UK but they population density in major cities is _significantly_ higher than the UK. Confirmed 10,653 Recovered 7,937 Deaths 232 Our death count 14K (and probably more like 20k) Maybe they know something we don’t? “Your Party is excited” +75exp Regards, Neil. On 17 Apr 2020, at 16:08, Paul Webb <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Well HMG are using COVID19 to sell Smartphone Tracking apps. The “lack of privacy notice” for the personal data is quite shocking! https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/privacy-notice-for-covid-19-response-activity/privacy-notice-for-covid-19-response-activity Disclaimer: Views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Clearstream Technology Ltd or Clearstream Technology Group Ltd (Clearstream). Confidentiality: This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you have received this email in error and any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender. Security: This e-mail has been created in the knowledge that Internet e-mail is not a 100% secure communications medium. We advise that you understand and observe this lack of security when e-mailing us. Although this email and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defects which might affect any computer or IT system into which they are received, no responsibility is accepted by Clearstream or any of its associated companies for any loss or damage arising in any way from the receipt or use thereof.
