I saw this with gateways as well. It was a PIII system. I recall something about there being a purple wire on the psu to the moby that was actually live, unlike every other system. I think the pc suppliers have given up on trying to make the hardware proprietary parts only. They seem to do better spending money on marketing rather than developement.

Phil Anderson wrote:

A word of caution - I don't know if Dell still does this, but I know for a while they also used proprietary power supplies - the pins in the ATX header were swapped around. Hopefully they've stopped this silliness but it's something to look out for on older Dell models. This article explains it (note it's from 2001: http://www.quepublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=339053&rl=1 <http://www.quepublishing.com/articles/article.asp?p=339053&rl=1> , also check out http://members.csolutions.net/dougm/images/dell/casemods.htm , it appears this is only on the older beige dell models which were mainly the Pentium 3 or earlier boxes.)

Again I'm pretty sure they've stopped doing this, but you never know what you'll run into.

-phil

On 10/5/05, *Josiah Ritchie* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Someone here bought 2 referb gateways before I caught them. They
    had the
    snap-in PS and I've seen a lot of power problems on them, even with a
    replacement PS that is a non-gateway model and jimmied in as you
    mentioned. We have replaced these "budget-savers". We standardized on
    Dell cause standards are good even if they aren't the latest and
    greatest stuff.

    In general, if you are dealing with a big name manufacturer, you are
    dealing with custom parts. It's kinda like cars I guess, except
    you can
    build your own from parts in a reasonable amount of time.

    My experience has been, if the PS goes out, the rest of the
    hardware is
    questionable anyway. Even if it didn't cause it, it may have been
    damaged in the blow-out. I'd be saving for a new PC.

    JSR/

    On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 13:47 -0400, Patrick Curran wrote:
    > Okie I'm frustrated...google didn't seem to help, so I turn to you:
    > My parents have a gateway computer, last year the power supply
    went.
    > The original PS simply snaped into the case. When it died, we
    bought a
    > new one
    > at the local computer shop.  It didn't quite fit in, but we kinda
    > jimmied it in there, and we wern't
    > upset because we just bought one at random thinking there was some
    > kinda standard size.
    >
    > Well that one died and we wanted to get one that just snapped in
    like
    > the first on.  So call to gateway...
    > at first they sent up a power back up thing...not even close to
    what
    > we wanted...then they just sent us another
    > power supply but that doesnt fit either...there doesnt seem to be
    > anyway to screw it in at all.  It was a mini-atx supply,
    > not sure if that means anything.
    >
    > So my question is, if I know what case I have, how do I get a power
    > supply that can fit into it.
    > It seems like this should be a standard thing.  Gateway seems to be
    > useless.
    >
    > Actually this isnt a huge problem I have the model of the original
    > power-supply, I just wanted to vent, and also
    > learn about how to handle this problem in the future, cos I
    shouldn't
    > have to buy the exact same one.  I want to
    > just be able to go and pick one up that will fit.
    >
    >



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