I saw some mention of EVMS but was not clear on what it was. Thanks for the info on that. It sounds interesting at the least.

As for Ubuntu, I did try using the alternate CD for Edgy (6.10), and as you said it let me configure a software RAID, but then later in the install when it asked me to reboot, the system didn't come up properly. If you're interested, you can find the details here:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343823

I've been asking around as to what might be going wrong, but I haven't gotten any answers yet.

Nick

On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Michael Wasser wrote:

This may not be what you had in mind -- but a few years ago, I was getting sick of setting up software raids, lvm, partitioning and everything else everytime I wanted to setup new HDs for a system. EVMS (enterprise volume management system) was a drop in solution to not just set these up, but to maintain them later. I've never tried to get it to work in ubuntu but I bet it wouldn't be too bad. I know you can do it very easily with gentoo while installing .. but then again, your installing gentoo by hand anyways so thats not saying much. It basically combines everything you would want to do with your hard drives into one single GUI including software raid, LVM, and partitioning and afterwards manages everything for you.

Also if you are looking to have raid setup by the installer itself, I've found that the ubuntu-alternative install cd does this pretty well. Basically one of the steps is a hard drive management panel and there's a wizard that makes creating software raids and LVM very easy.

Michael Wasser

Nick Cummings wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, David Zakar wrote:

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I know this isn't going to be well-received advice by some folks, but I'd recommend a switch to RHEL, CentOS, or Fedora. I know for a fact that all of those have excellent support for RAID (and LVM) in their installers (both GUI and text), making setup a snap.

Yeah, looking around I got the impression that Fedora/Redhat and SUSE have the best RAID support for Linux, presumably due to their enterprise focus. I'm not crazy about switching to Fedora (I've liked debian and Ubuntu and it's what I'm used to), but it seems like it may be the best solution.

[snip]
If you're planning on running RAID 0, be sure you understand the inherent risks involved. And back up regularly! :)

Yeah, I get that the failure rate is higher (a little less than twice as high in this case), but it's ok since I'm going to be regularly backing up important data on an old EIDE disk.

Thanks for the input!


-DMZ

Quoting Nick Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I was recently given a new mobo with an nForce chipset that claimed to
have a RAID controller and two identical SATA drives with the idea that
I could use it for a RAID0.  Before being given this setup, I hadn't
really given a lot of thought to running a RAID, but I'm thinking its
at least now worth a try.

After doing a bit of reading, it appears that the "RAID controller" on
the mobo is actually a so-called "fake RAID" that needs a driver which
actually implements much of the RAID functionality.  My options then
were to try to find a working driver for Linux or to use a straight
software RAID.  Anyone have any idea how the two of these compare?

I read several claims that the software RAID in Linux is as fast or
faster than most of these fake RAIDs, but I remain a bit skeptical.
Anyone know about that?  Stuff I read seemed to suggest that one
downside of the fake RAID is that it could only be read by that chipset
(or a similar one) while the software RAID could be read by any system
with Linux (and appropriate modules).  I know an upside of fake RAID is
that if you're dual booting it can be read by Windows, but I'm not dual
booting, so this is a non-issue.

I initially chose to go with the software RAID, thinking it would be
easier and more compatible, but I'm having a hell of a time getting
Ubuntu to setup the RAID and install.  Right now my system won't boot
properly (seems it does not like having / on a RAID).  So I have an
opportunity to reconsider my decision.

Another related question is whether anyone know how the performance
compares of having two ordinary swap partitions set to the same
priority versus having a RAID0 swap partition using the two disk?  Is
one significantly better than the other?  Is neither all that useful?

Finally, since Ubuntu's support for setting up a RAID at install seems
pretty bad, can anyone suggest distributions in which this goes more
smoothly?  All things being equal, I probably prefer debian-based
distros, since that's what I'm familiar with.

Thanks,

Nick


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