Hello >It look pretty promising! I'm looking forward to see someone with a highly detailed proposal on this idea for this year!
What details are you looking for. Please tell so that I can incorporate in my idea. What are shortcomings in my proposal. Regards Neeraj On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 PM, <[email protected]>wrote: > Send Umit-devel mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/umit-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Umit-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Quick Scan proposal (Adriano Marques) > 2. Re: Quick Scan proposal (Adriano Marques) > 3. FW: BT doubts (S?rgio Rocha) > 4. PacketManipulator - extension to Graph Plotter ( new idea to > GSoC ) (Luis A. Bastiao Silva) > 5. Re: PacketManipulator - extension to Graph Plotter ( new idea > to GSoC ) (Francesco Piccinno) > 6. Submitted my proposal on Quick Scan (neeraj gupta) > 7. Re: PacketManipulator - extension to Graph Plotter ( new idea > to GSoC ) (Adriano Monteiro Marques) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:16:53 +0100 > From: Adriano Marques <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [umit-devel] Quick Scan proposal > To: "Luis A. Bastiao Silva" <[email protected]> > Cc: umit devel <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hello Luis, > > First, I would like to apologize for my delay on answering these > e-mails. I hope it is still time ;-) > > > So, your idea is make a scan based on history cache? And if I machine was > leaving from network? QuickScan will present wrong results? > > Quick scan would take results from Umit's db, where the scheduller > writes the results into. Also, we can first show the results in cache, > but run a quick scan to confirm the data, and if the host is down, we > can remove it from the list. > > > Or do you intend make schedule scans to local network? > > Also, but in case a person enters an unknown address which isn't in > user's local network (like Google's servers IP address, for example), > it will conduct a search show to the user and save that in history. > > > However we could think an approach with threads looking for ports firsts, > the machines up, and finally made a more complex scan that takes more time. > But it have consequences. > > No need to do that. A quick scan is enough speed. > > > yeah, if the tuple (port,service) get a trusted information we can > interact with it and call an appropriate application. > > Is it what you wanted to say right? > > Yes. > > > Cheers! > > -- > Adriano Monteiro Marques > > http://adriano-marques.blogspot.com > http://www.umitproject.org > http://www.pythonbenelux.org > > "Don't stay in bed, unless you can make money in bed." - George Burns > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:33:06 +0100 > From: Adriano Marques <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [umit-devel] Quick Scan proposal > To: Bartosz SKOWRON <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hello Bart! > > Thanks for your input! > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Bartosz SKOWRON <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I remember that idea from the last year and then i was confused of it. > > Now, unfortunately I'm still. > > Quickscan for me (and gpolo wrote the same on IRC) is nothing more than > > simple SysTray icon, where you can click or use hotkey and type > > host, and after a while get information about the host (maybe by > > using system notification or balloons or the correct name of this > > thing). > > I understand what you mean, and maybe I didn't make the proposed idea > clear enough in the ideas page. It is not only a systray icon, and it > is not a simple scan. We want something usable, and quick like > spotlight or launchy. Something that is clever enough to really speed > up its use in order to be faster than using regular nmap command. If > you use spotlight or launchy you'll understand what I mean. > > > And this is a task for few hours (including testing). And it's > > definitely too small for GSoC. At least, I can do it on Wednesday if > > it's all about ;-) > > Develop a systray icon that runs an nmap command is not what we want, > as I said. There is enough room here to fill a whole GSoC if the > student is innovative enough. That is the sort of breakthrough we > need: there is no spotlight equivalent for searching on the network > instead of files. > > > The other things which you and Luis described, personally are > > worthless. I mean, it's more talking than coding. Too much abstraction. > > If it has to be "quick" it should be pure, simple and without extra > > options. > > Sorry, but I disagree once again. I can be quick and look simple to > users, but this involves a lot of coding. Developing a pleasant > interface isn't that easy, and it indeed involves abstraction. This is > the idea part, so we need some brainstorming to have a better > understanding of the whole thing and then realise the best solution. > > > Otherwise it won't be quicker than using nmap directly from > > console (please remember, that Quick Scan is mostly for experienced > > users). > > What's faster? typing nmap -T4 -v -n IP, selecting the desired result > and after typing the command to launch the client or typing a simple > shortcut, the IP and then right-clicking the result to launch the > client. I would go for the second one just as people go for spotlight > instead of running a find or locate on the terminal. > > > But if you feel like it has to have more options. OK. But then > > I will wait for full proposal more than simple ideas. Cause for now, > > I'm sure that with this thread we will go to nowhere without specified > > details and goals. > > That's my point of view. > > Once again, thanks for your input. It was very important, because if > you're confused, that means that someone could be confused also and > this conversations is important to clarify the intentions of this > idea, so proponents can create a better proposal. > > > Cheers! > > PS: If in the end we find that QuickScan is not enough for a GSoC, > I'll make sure to provide the student more tasks to fill the time, > don't worry! ;-) > > -- > Adriano Monteiro Marques > > http://adriano-marques.blogspot.com > http://www.umitproject.org > http://www.pythonbenelux.org > > "Don't stay in bed, unless you can make money in bed." - George Burns > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:56:35 +0000 > From: S?rgio Rocha <[email protected]> > Subject: [umit-devel] FW: BT doubts > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > I searched on bluetooth technology but i have some questions about it: > > How can get the spectrum? > How I can capture the pakets on air? > > > it is a wireless network of low power are just starting Class 3 (100m) is > more > probably find some piconet to analyze unlike other classes, > but the devices to communicate have to be inside its own radius. > > Sergio Rocha > > > > Windows Live Messenger. O melhor em multitarefa. > _________________________________________________________________ > O Windows Live Spaces j? chegou! ? f?cil criar o seu pr?prio Web site > pessoal. > http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:40:30 +0000 > From: "Luis A. Bastiao Silva" <[email protected]> > Subject: [umit-devel] PacketManipulator - extension to Graph Plotter ( > new idea to GSoC ) > To: umit devel <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi folks, > Are you a student? So you're the main interested in read it. :-) > Volunteers are welcome too :) > > > I was thinking about new things that I could help some networks users. > And I thought that one thing could be useful for students of network, > teachers and networking analyzes. Do you know what MSC means? > *Message*Sequence > *Charts. > > * Actually in PacketManipulator we have a nice plotter about a packet. > That's cool but not enough. > It's need a gtk + drawing features with cairo, gdk, etc. > But the idea it's create a viewer of sequence packet with plugin protocol > support. It should have a protocol tree embeded too. > > Example with TCP: > > 10.0.0.1 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.3 > (....) > TCP Syn(sn=22) ---------- > > TCP ACK <----------- > TCP FIN ------------> > > > > And if we could analyze application protocols like HTTP and put it easy to > understand like telnet commands. > > - Support live support > - Load libpcap format (wireshark, sniffer xpto, etc) > > Another feature it's edit some fields and add some comments with balloons > support. > > Finally to make sense it need to export the sequence to svg, png. > > That's idea. Others features to complement this idea are welcome. > > What do you think about? > > Best Regards, > -- > Lu?s A. Basti?o Silva > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:02:24 +0100 > From: Francesco Piccinno <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [umit-devel] PacketManipulator - extension to Graph > Plotter ( new idea to GSoC ) > To: "Luis A. Bastiao Silva" <[email protected]> > Cc: umit devel <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Nice idea. Probably it's better to split the code in two, by creating > a general widget to create graphs like graphviz does, another module > to manage the packet parsing and evalutation, and another one to use > these 2 module to produce the result. In this way the code could be > shared and used for the other idea proposed by luis in the UMIT wiki, > about the traffic network. > > 2009/3/26 Luis A. Bastiao Silva <[email protected]>: > > Hi folks, > > Are you a student? So you're the main interested in read it. :-) > > Volunteers are welcome too :) > > > > > > I was thinking about new things that I could help some networks users. > > And I thought that one thing could be useful for students of network, > > teachers and networking analyzes. Do you know what MSC means? Message > > Sequence Charts. > > > > Actually in PacketManipulator we have a nice plotter about a packet. > That's > > cool but not enough. > > It's need a? gtk + drawing features with cairo, gdk, etc. > > But the idea it's create a viewer of sequence packet with plugin protocol > > support. It should have a protocol tree embeded too. > > > > Example with TCP: > > > > 10.0.0.1???????????????????? 10.0.0.2????????????????????? 10.0.0.3 > > (....) > > TCP Syn(sn=22) ?? ---------- > > > ???? ??? TCP ACK ? ?? <----------- > > ???????? TCP FIN??????? ------------> > > > > > > > > And if we could analyze application protocols like HTTP and put it easy > to > > understand like telnet commands. > > > > - Support live support > > - Load libpcap format (wireshark, sniffer xpto, etc) > > > > Another feature it's edit some fields and add some comments with balloons > > support. > > > > Finally to make sense it need to export the sequence to svg, png. > > > > That's idea. Others features to complement this idea are welcome. > > > > What do you think about? > > > > Best Regards, > > -- > > Lu?s A. Basti?o Silva > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Umit-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/umit-devel > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Francesco Piccinno > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:12:35 +0530 > From: neeraj gupta <[email protected]> > Subject: [umit-devel] Submitted my proposal on Quick Scan > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello, > > I have submitted my proposal for Quick Scan. Please have a look. > > Regards > Neeraj > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:34:44 +0100 > From: Adriano Monteiro Marques <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [umit-devel] PacketManipulator - extension to Graph > Plotter ( new idea to GSoC ) > To: Luis A. Bastiao Silva <[email protected]> > Cc: umit devel <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > It look pretty promising! I'm looking forward to see someone with a > highly detailed proposal on this idea for this year! > > Just reminding that students shouldn't bind thenselves on the ideas > listed in our ideas page. If you had a breakthrough, just send us your > proposal with your great idea and we'll consider it seriously ;-) > > > Cheers! > > Em 26 Mar 2009, ?s 21:40, Luis A. Bastiao Silva escreveu: > > > Hi folks, > > Are you a student? So you're the main interested in read it. :-) > > Volunteers are welcome too :) > > > > > > I was thinking about new things that I could help some networks users. > > And I thought that one thing could be useful for students of > > network, teachers and networking analyzes. Do you know what MSC > > means? Message Sequence Charts. > > > > Actually in PacketManipulator we have a nice plotter about a packet. > > That's cool but not enough. > > It's need a gtk + drawing features with cairo, gdk, etc. > > But the idea it's create a viewer of sequence packet with plugin > > protocol support. It should have a protocol tree embeded too. > > > > Example with TCP: > > > > 10.0.0.1 10.0.0.2 > > 10.0.0.3 (....) > > TCP Syn(sn=22) ---------- > > > TCP ACK <----------- > > TCP FIN ------------> > > > > > > > > And if we could analyze application protocols like HTTP and put it > > easy to understand like telnet commands. > > > > - Support live support > > - Load libpcap format (wireshark, sniffer xpto, etc) > > > > Another feature it's edit some fields and add some comments with > > balloons support. > > > > Finally to make sense it need to export the sequence to svg, png. > > > > That's idea. Others features to complement this idea are welcome. > > > > What do you think about? > > > > Best Regards, > > -- > > Lu?s A. Basti?o Silva > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > > Umit-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/umit-devel > > --- > Adriano Monteiro Marques > > http://www.thoughtspad.com > http://www.umitproject.org > http://blog.umitproject.org > http://www.pythonbenelux.org > > "Don't stay in bed, unless you can make money in bed." - George Burns > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Umit-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/umit-devel > > > End of Umit-devel Digest, Vol 13, Issue 12 > ****************************************** >
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