Hi Shrey,

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva
<[email protected]> wrote:
> It means change behavior of protocols. The firewall can block the traffic,
> and audit, based on questions, answer with different answer, not the
> expected ones.
> For instance, do a request to an HTTP server. Then, the MITM audit can
> change the answer of HTTP Server, to fuzzing the client, and test it. It is
> change the behavior of protocol. Make sense?
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Shrey Sharma <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> And I have one more question....
>> In the project named Packet Manipulator-new audit
>> what does "change the protocols behavior based on MITM audits" means ...I
>> mean do we have to work to prevent such attacks ??
>> -Shrey
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Shrey Sharma <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey i was jst experimenting with my Nmap and i found that it doesn’t
>>> identify the windows platform precisely ...i.e. it says that it could be
>>> windows 7,windows vista, windows 2000..
>>>
>>> but it doesn’t identify that exactly which version is being used.So , I
>>> have come up with an idea, Please read it and tell me if it can work..
>>>
>>> “Less tactful attempts at OS identification can be made by
>>>
>>> launching known exploits for a given OS type against a target host, in
>>>
>>> chronological order. The theory is that exploits are patched as they are
>>>
>>> discovered so by starting with the oldest known exploit against a given
>>> host
>>>
>>> and working forward should yield a point at which an attack succeeds,
>>> which
>>>
>>> should thereby identify the revision of OS in use. As an example,
>>> Microsoft
>>>
>>> Windows 95, 98 and NT4 are difficult to distinguish supposedly because
>>> the
>>>
>>> IP stack code was only marginally revised between OS versions. Starting
>>>
>>> with a basic WinNuke attack and moving forward to more complex attacks
>>> such as Teardrop can eventually yield a vulnerability that points to the
>>> type and/or hotfix revision that is missing from the OS, thus indicating the
>>> current patch level”

This exploit chronology method is indeed useful. But, sometimes (I
think almost always) you don't want to damage the target machine or be
identified by a NIDS. So, I agree it can be used, but this approach is
something associated to "the end justifies the means". That is a new
tool being developed in Umit that can recognize this OSes (see the
proposal at http://www.dca.ufrn.br/~joaomedeiros/gsoc/2009/proposal/node1.html,
specially Figure 2). Zion use just valid packets and is very difficult
to be identify by a NIDS (in my tests it never happened). So, I think
you can contribute developing Zion to achieve this very objective.

>>> Waiting Eagerly,
>>> -Shrey
>>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ah, now I notice, did you need any help to start running Audit
>>>> Framework?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Shrey,
>>>>> You should start by doing a proposal.
>>>>> Start filling the template:
>>>>> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2011/umit
>>>>> Then, submit, and you can edit on the fly. I can paste a few comments.
>>>>> Start by filling it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Shrey Sharma <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please suggest me how can I submit a patch on 11 - Packet
>>>>>> Manipulator - new audits ?
>>>>>> and how can I improve my chances to get selected for this project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Luis A. Bastiao Silva
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Shrey,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Shrey Sharma
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>            Hi,
>>>>>>>>                  My name is Shrey Sharma.I am really very excited
>>>>>>>> about Packet Manipulator .
>>>>>>>>                  I am a B.tech Student of Indian Institute of
>>>>>>>> Technology(IIT),Kharagpur majoring in Computer Science.
>>>>>>>>                  I have a huge interest in the field of networks. I
>>>>>>>> have also volunteered as the system administrator  in my Computer 
>>>>>>>> Science
>>>>>>>> Department .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for introduction. It has a great value for us, because we are
>>>>>>> an open souce organization focused on network security, audit, 
>>>>>>> monitoring ..
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           Skills:
>>>>>>>>               I know Python,but didn't do any major project in it.
>>>>>>>>               I am currently learning about the network protocols.
>>>>>>>>               Recently, attended a workshop on Hacking and Digital
>>>>>>>> Securities organized by Kyrion Digital Securities
>>>>>>>>            It would be really great if you could suggest me any work
>>>>>>>> that I can do to increase my chances to work in this project.
>>>>>>>>            I have gone through all the links but it would be great
>>>>>>>> if you can send further details of this project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Related ideas:
>>>>>>> http://www.umitproject.org/?active=gsoc&mode=ideas#6
>>>>>>> http://www.umitproject.org/?active=gsoc&mode=ideas#7
>>>>>>> http://www.umitproject.org/?active=gsoc&mode=ideas#11
>>>>>>> You can also propose your own idea to improve PacketManipulator.
>>>>>>> Information about Packet Manipulator:
>>>>>>> http://trac.umitproject.org/wiki/PacketManipulator
>>>>>>> Information about Audit Framework (PacketManipulator framework)
>>>>>>> http://trac.umitproject.org/wiki/AuditFramework
>>>>>>> Submit your proposal:
>>>>>>> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2011/umit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just let us know if you need further information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eagerly Waiting for your reply,
>>>>>>>> Shrey Sharma
>>>>>>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>>>>>> IIT Kharagpur
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Luís A. Bastião Silva
>>>>>>> Skype: koplabs
>>>>>>> http://www.bastiao.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Luís A. Bastião Silva
>>>>> Skype: koplabs
>>>>> http://www.bastiao.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Luís A. Bastião Silva
>>>> Skype: koplabs
>>>> http://www.bastiao.org
>>>
>>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> --
> Luís A. Bastião Silva
> Skype: koplabs
> http://www.bastiao.org
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