Matt,

I use a hybrid approach, so far as I can I install everything at build time,
using Unattended.  For major additions I have a logoff script that sets up
todo and auto logon for the next startup to log in with a (local) admin
account and perform an Unattended style install of the new packages.

For minor additions, or emergency stuff like forcing an anti-virus check I
use the occasional logon / logoff script.

There are pros/cons for each

The unattended style install works well, so long as your users do not fiddle
whilst it is in progress - a screen sized spalsh  hidding the display helps,
but for the machines that our students use (I run a school network - ages up
to 18) that is not sufficient - I currently resort to doing the update a
room at a time when they are not in school and making sure we are back to
the normal login screen before I leave.

The logon/of method works well only with software that needs no interaction
on screen, completly silent installs are probably OK, but I have had some
that fail if they cannot display on screen (well just one actually - but
that is when I stopped looking).  Also script processing has time limits,
and you need to make sure the script only runs once - I just write a small
text file on completion and use an 'if file exists' type construct to
determine if the script should run.

I guess the time limit would largely be avoided if you used the script to
set up a scheduled task for install - rebooting the machine when required
then becomes an issue because a user may then be logged in.

I am rapidly moving to a positon that updating software will be done by
periodically rebuilding the machine from scratch - a suite of 30 machines
will build overnight & be ready for use the following morning.  How
practical that is for you depends on your local setup - our workstations are
considered disposable, no user data is allowed to be stored locally (well -
it is, but there are no complaints allowed if I walk up & zap the machine on
a whim)

Others may have their own opinions, but this is working for me - although I
am always looking for ways to improve

Regards

Kevin Lawry

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Subject: [Unattended] Autologin vs scheduled tasks


I'm a bit of a newbie to Unattended, but by *ghod* I've been hanging out
for a tool like this for ages.

I tend to subscribe to the philosophies espoused at
http://www.infrastructures.org/ (which, incidentally, led me to
unattended in the first place).  I want to be able to run something
periodically, or at least on startup before user login, to maintain the
machine at peak condition.  Now, todo.pl would appear to do that for me,
but it doesn't really because it needs autologin, and I want this to
happen while users are logging in, if not before, and without handing
the peons an Admin console.

This led me to Scheduled Tasks and how it can trigger something to run
at startup.  Woopee!  says I.  Just copy a .JOB file in c:\winnt\tasks
(on Win2K at least) and I'm done.

At least, I hope so.

My questions to this august forum are:

1) Has anyone else looked at this, tried it, and found it
good/bad/otherwise?

2) Is there any particular reason why todo.pl uses Autologin rather than
a startup task to do it's job?

- Matt




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