I need to apologize because I did not realize I was emailing a list.

To answer some of the questions.

Imaging is a good idea in the right situation for rapid deployment.(on a
roll out of a new OS) or (50+ refreshes in a single night) or (to have
someone back up and working with a fresh load in less than an hour)
Imaging is a good idea if you setup the image to be really generic and
initiate the hardware detection once the image comes up.

One thing to remember about imaging is that you are putting down an
actual "image" of a drive or partition and that can be in whatever
configuration you want, you don't just have to image a completely
installed system.

Why packaging is a good idea.

Well let's put it like this, in your own confession packaging is hard to
do unless you know it really well. I agree. I also know from repackaging
many , many applications that often vendors don't employee Good
packagers. Most only have experience packaging the one or two apps that
they sell. Also their target is generally anything from win95 to WXPsp2.
Which means they have to include a plethora of components and checks and
will automatically install these things such as DAO, MDAC, etc... on
your nice clean new install. This can be detrimental especially if you
manage these components and have other apps that require a certain
version. As a once professional packager I focus on making apps work on
1 or 2 at the most OSs. Plus I can dis-include (is that a word?) all the
components I manage elsewhere/otherwise. Having scrun.dll registered in
c:\program files\some app dir can play havoc with other apps, scripts,
and stuff.

CONTROL - is important when you support 700+ applications.

Did I answer your questions?


::EvanJHoush::

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Erdman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:46 AM
To: Michael Kahle; Unattended List; Housh, Evan
Subject: RE: [Unattended] Comments and Criticism

> I think you might be misunderstanding the OP.  He is simply taking 
> exception to some of the assertions that are made by the unattended 
> project page about disk imaging and re-packaging.  I personally am 
> interested in this
topic
> and
> would not want to shoo Evan away for simply bringing up some points.
> 
> Unfortunately Evan (OP) adds little to the discussion in terms of
giving
> suggestions when imaging might be a good idea or under what
circumstances
> "Software Repackaging" might be a good idea.  The only argument he has

> given to us is to trust his "experience" on the matter.  So, what say 
> you
Evan?
> Can we get some more concrete examples on: Why Imaging is a good idea?
or
> Why Software Repackaging is a good idea?
> 
> I have a few software packages here at my company that I would much
rather
> re-package with msi than use some of the AutoIT scripts that I have 
> hacking things together.
> 
> This is a good discussion.
> 
> Michael

I think I tend to agree with you on this.  MSI packages can be very
powerful, and when combined with a group policy for deploying software,
very effective.  

However, I tried to go down the repackaging road and fond it to be very
time consuming.  Unless you are trained as a re-packager, the learning
curve, in my experience, was a little too steep for the average
sys-admin.  I didn't have the time to lean about the all the intricacies
of MSI packaging.  I did repackage a number of pieces of software, but
only after a good bit of effort.

Brad

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