I am out of the office October 1st & 2nd and will respond to your message as 
quickly as possible once I return.

Amanda

On Oct 1, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Amanda Constant via Unbound-users 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I am out of the office October 1st & 2nd and will respond to your message as 
> quickly as possible once I return.
> 
> Amanda
> 
> On Oct 1, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Amanda Constant via Unbound-users 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I am out of the office October 1st & 2nd and will respond to your message as 
> quickly as possible once I return.
> 
> Amanda
> 
> On Oct 1, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Chris via Unbound-users 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Welllll.... Ive done a lot of looking around and I just dont see any solution 
> to this issue. Im not concerned with DoS attacks, those i could deal with. Im 
> concerned for the stunningly stealthy 5 or 6 NXDOMAIN lookups from a scary 
> actor. That kind of thing could transmit a small amount of really damaging 
> info. Or.. A company using this to monitor each client with pings once a 
> minute. The uses of this low rate communications channel is Unbounded and 
> truly scary.
> 
> I know this has been around a long time. Im sorry for my stunned amazement, I 
> just ran into this.
> 
> No matter how I rack my brain, I can't think of any way around this. Short of 
> a registry of every domain before they can be used. So nothing should ever 
> come up NXDOMAIN. Even then,, it will get abused.
> 
> Man, just when I thought I was happy with TLS 1.3 for DNS and DNSSEC. Its 
> just never ending.
> 
> On 10/1/2018 4:03 AM, Chris via Unbound-users wrote:
> I was reading a disturbing article on ways that DNS can be used to get data 
> past firewalls and for malicious programs to communicate with a command and 
> control center via DNS NXDOMAIN.
> 
> Right off hand I dont see a way to block this ? Looking at my NXDOMAIN 
> lookups its quite pervasive and coming from a large number of sources. Its 
> clearly being used by A LOT of people.
> 
> Is there a way I can use Unbound to mitigate this threat ? This is a serious 
> issue because i don't see how to block this.
> 
> https://www.plixer.com/blog/detecting-malware/security-vendors-teaching-bad-actors-how-to-get-past-firewalls/
>  
> 
> 
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