We import all (“stats_noreset”) our Unbound 1.5.10 data into Prometheus (a TSDB) every 15 seconds. We then generate many different reports out of the collected data. The current test system has very low QPS - 100-300. I admit that the problem I describe below might be an issue with Prometheus or low QPS, but I’d like to ensure my assumptions about counters are correct before I start digging into a system which seems to work quite well for all my other data thus far.

I noticed something a bit off with one of the graphs, and I’m trying to understand what I’m doing wrong that is causing the problem. I have added up all of the incremental increasing results for the histograms for a particular interval (i.e.: subtracting last sample from current sample) and then compared that against what I thought should be the same (or extremely close) number which would be contained in the “total.num.queries” counter using the same method for the same time intervals. They are very, very different numbers - an unexpected result. (1)

Sample query below for histogram. Hopefully these should be mostly-evident even to a non-Prometheus user - “irate” means “give the per-second rate over time” with “[1m]” giving a one minute maximum time backwards from a sample to get the last value prior. Timespans are not shown here for brevity, but the queries are done with the same time bounds (typically 1 minute buckets. I limit the queries to “prod”uction systems, and only for particular POPs as a templated variable.)

  sum(
irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000000_to_000000_000001 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000001_to_000000_000002 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000002_to_000000_000004 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000004_to_000000_000008 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000008_to_000000_000016 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000016_to_000000_000032 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000032_to_000000_000064 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000064_to_000000_000128 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000128_to_000000_000256 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000256_to_000000_000512 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_000512_to_000000_001024 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_001024_to_000000_002048 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_002048_to_000000_004096 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_004096_to_000000_008192 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_008192_to_000000_016384 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_016384_to_000000_032768 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_032768_to_000000_065536 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_065536_to_000000_131072 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_131072_to_000000_262144 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_262144_to_000000_524288 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000000_524288_to_000001_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000001_000000_to_000002_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000002_000000_to_000004_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000004_000000_to_000008_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000008_000000_to_000016_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000016_000000_to_000032_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000032_000000_to_000064_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000064_000000_to_000128_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000128_000000_to_000256_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000256_000000_to_000512_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_000512_000000_to_001024_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_001024_000000_to_002048_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_002048_000000_to_004096_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_004096_000000_to_008192_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_008192_000000_to_016384_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_016384_000000_to_032768_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_032768_000000_to_065536_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_065536_000000_to_131072_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_131072_000000_to_262144_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]) + ignoring(label) irate(unbound_histogram_262144_000000_to_524288_000000 {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m])
  )

This above query for an example 1 minute period provides a value of 159 total queries per second. I then compare that result to the following query using the exact same time bounds:

 sum(irate(unbound_total_num_queries {env="prod",loc=~"$POP"}[1m]))

The above query results in 241 queries per second for that same 1 minute interval. I would expect the values to be within 5% of each other, but they are quite dissimilar. The mismatched ratio I see stays fairly level across QPS variation - around .7:1 though it does spike and dip between .5:1 and .8:1 if I graph the ratio over time.

Am I misunderstanding how the histogram.* and total.num.queries are counting queries and replies? My initial assumption was that they would be almost identical for the same timeframe.

Do the histogram counters not include NXDOMAIN, nodata, SERVFAIL results? That seems inherently wrong to not measure the reply time for those rcode results (those intervals are still visible to the end user!) though it was worth looking to see if that led to more sensible matching. Even subtracting those rcodes out of the larger number (unbound_total_num_queries) the aggregated histogram values still are 10-20% lower than that value though they are closer; I can’t tell if this is simply by chance, and is possibly the wrong path to a solution.

I could “look at the code” but that means farming it out to an actual developer, because I’m merely a pointy-haired boss/graphmonger who wants to build KPI-type statistics and alerts. I’m hoping there is a document or quick answer someone can point me towards which will clear up the discrepancy I am finding.

JT



(1) Background story: I’m trying to build a graph that is “percentile bands” of response time, and I needed a denominator for my calculations. I could have added up all of the histogram results to get the denominator for my percentage graph, but that made my query too big, so I just used “total.num.queries” but that led to a gap in the stacked graph, meaning down the rabbit hole I went and ended up here.


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