Dana
Great insights...I needed to have the language to describe understanding before 
I expected the kids to get there.
AND...LOL...when I said "easy"...I meant easy for the kids, not me! :-) 
Certainly there has been a lot of revision in my own thinking, through this 
listserv I have started to find words to describe my changes in thinking and 
then I have just started to take action upon those changes in my thinking. 
There is another dimension of understanding that I am finding in myself as I 
learn more.

Come to think of it, I realize the kids and I missed one of the most obvious 
dimensions of understanding in the Grandfather Twilight lesson: revision of 
thinking! How could I have missed naming it for the kids??? (Duh!) They 
certainly noticed it! :-)


Jennifer Palmer
Reading Specialist, National Board Certified Teacher
FLES- Lead the discovery, Live the learning, Love the adventure.
Reading furnishes the mind only with the materials of knowledge. It is thinking
that makes what we read ours. -John Locke





From: Dana Williams
Sent: Wed 4/9/2008 10:44 PM
To: Special Chat List for "To Understand: New Horizons in Reading Comprehension"
Subject: Re: [Understand] Jennifer's lesson


Jennifer -
I love that you're asking us to not just say "yep, they finally got it!" but, 
instead, to pause and ask "Why?".  I'm short on time right now (which is ironic 
after just reading the posts about the importance of taking time and 
reflecting!) and I can't truly stop, think, and listen like I want to... but I 
just couldn't resist posting my immediate thoughts.  
I think that the reason it "bubbled up" for them is, partly, due to your very 
intentional use of language when you presented the original lesson.  More 
importantly, I think it is a direct result of your recent understanding about 
the nature of understanding!  I mean, perhaps before if they said such things 
as "The classroom got really noisy" or "We really wanted to know more", you 
wouldn't have had the understanding, the language even, to describe to them 
that those are things that happen in our minds, in our lives, when we 
understand.  Actually, you maybe wouldn't have thought to even pose the 
question/make the chart as a follow-up lesson.  You may have just asked "How 
did your questions help you as a reader?" - incidentally, a question I've been 
asking for years.  :)  
So, I'm thinking that because you are starting to understand what happens in 
your life, in our lives, when understanding takes place, you can now make your 
students aware of those very same things.  To me, your language choice and your 
awareness as a reader, as someone who does understand, made all the difference. 
 

I have always followed up my strategy instruction with "how did that connection 
help you as a reader" type questions, too.  But I have never said things like 
"I love how when you asked that question, you wanted to just sit and dwell with 
the text for a moment" or "after reading this book last night about Writer's 
Workshop, it's like I've developed a fervent desire to learn more, to try 
it....I can't stop thinking about it".  I think it's when we start using that 
language and actually showing our students what it looks like, what it feels 
like to understand - that is when we'll go "yep, they finally got it!".  I 
think what you just witnessed in your classroom is what Ellin was attempting to 
discover and to explain when she wrote the book.  
I'm wondering how many of my students "got it" all along - did they have it the 
whole time, but I didn't have the language, the understanding, to make them see 
that they got it?  Did I not even really know what it would look like when they 
got it?  I almost feel like I was asking those questions and sometimes not even 
knowing what I would hope they would say!

And I don't think it was necessarily "easy" - you did a lot of thinking, 
planning, more thinking, more planning, and you acted very deliberately- and 
that's not easy at all.  :)

Dana Williams 

Original message:
So...why was this so easy today? I have worked and worked over the years  
with classes who couldn't seem to answer metacognitive type questions like "How 
 
does this help you as a reader?" and my kiddos always struggled. I thought 
this  would be so hard and it all bubbled up. Was it the fact that they had 
time 
in  between to reflect? Was it the changes we made in the lesson plan to 
include  more about the nature of understanding? Was it just one of those "God 
Bless  America" happy accidents? well... I hope not. I still have much to  
consider.
Jennifer
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