Dana,
I too struggle with spelling and its use in the classroom. Could you send
the info from Nancie Atwell that you mentioned regarding the individual
lists. I teach 4th grade and I've tried to individualize, but sometimes I
get lost in the management of all the varying levels.
Thanks,
Leslie Wright


On 7/18/08, Dana Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> From: Dana Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Judy Mazur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:18:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Understand] Bear with me...
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> Judy -
> I think its a valid concern you have and shows how dedicated you are to
> making sure you're doing the best for your students.  As far as spelling
> goes, I believe that some people are just naturally "good spellers".  Not
> that I necessarily believe they're just born that way, but maybe their
> learning style lends itself more to seeing the patterns inherent in our
> language?  Anyway, I, too, have struggled with spelling throughout my
> teaching career.  Those who are not "good spellers" either don't or can't
> just memorize a weekly list.  The best solution I have come up with thus far
> is from Nancie Atwell - each student works on their own personal list of
> words they personally struggle with.  It's very manageable and easy to
> implement.  I can send you more info if you'd like.
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> As for your other examples, I'm thinking that maybe you need to have this
> discussion with your students?  Tell them that you've noticed what great
> thinkers they are.  Tell them you love how they work through a text and make
> their own meaning, come to understand.  But also tell them that, in life,
> there are, unfortunately, some things you just have to memorize.  Give them
> examples from your own life of tasks that may seem unpleasant to you, but
> are necessary.  Share with them things you have to memorize - your checking
> account number, what you need to pick up from the grocery store.  And, right
> now, they have to memorize how many pints are in a gallon.  Sympathize with
> their struggle, but such is life, right?
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> As much as I LOVE teaching them to become lifelong readers and writers, I
> have to accept the reality that there are times were the content is just as
> important as the process.
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> Just my thoughts here.... maybe someone else has a better reply to the
> content vs. process issue (which, I think, is what you're toying with).
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> Dana
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Judy Mazur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 8:42:33 PM
> Subject: [Understand] Bear with me...
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> I'm not eloquent, and I don't quite know how to say this, but I'm starting
> to worry a bit about the emphasis I'm placing on thinking.  I am devoted to
> comprehension strategies and writer's workshop.  My goal is for my students
> to become joyful independent learners, thinkers who delve.  I raise the bar
> every year and am thrilled with the ability of my third graders.  BUT, now
> that several of you have brought up spelling (my LEAST favorite subject--I
> love what Beverlee wrote), I realize that my kids never, and I mean NEVER,
> memorize.  Even my most brilliant kids seem stymied when converting gallons
> to pints (without a chart or visual).  Spelling mistakes are frequent.  I am
> beginning to wonder if I am doing them a disservice.  Am I crippling them as
> learners by focusing on process?  Is it enough to give them strategies to
> solve problems if they need to be reminded how many days are in each
> month?  I swear I will never go back to the "old way" of
> teaching, but I am concerned.  What do you think?
> I hope my concern is clear,
> Judy
> (judy3ca)
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