I think whether a piece of writing has a main idea depends on the type of 
writing.  A history book about one subject (not text books) has a main idea.  
I'm thinking about Doris Kerns Goodwin's book on Lincoln because I just started 
it last night.  It has a main idea and probably many other ideas -- after all 
it is about 700 pages!

In history writing, the main idea is called the thesis.
Jan

 
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> I am going to back us up just a little before beginning discussion on the  
> last chapter. I had the pleasure of getting to hear Ellin speak in person in  
> Pennsylvania last week and one point she made was that there is no such thing 
> as 
>  "main idea". She teaches children that main idea is a construct test makers 
> made  up and that students, when faced with a main idea question must try to 
> figure  out what the test maker thinks is important. She explains to children 
> that there  are important ideas...but these might vary based on the readers' 
> reason for  reading. 
>  
> The question that immediately popped into my mind was related to  expository 
> text structures. Isn't there a text structure that is organized main  idea 
detail? Isn't that newspaper writing where we get the most important idea  
> first? 
> I know lots of simple nonfiction for primary children seems to be  organized 
> main idea detail---just think of Scholastic News, Weekly Reader and  Time for 
> Kids. 
>  
> So---when I came home I picked up my copy of To Understand and backed up to  
> chapter seven. Figure 7.2, page 182 does not have "main idea detail" listed 
> as 
> a  text structure, but the description of the descriptive text structure 
> seems to  me to BE "main idea-detail". I thought of descriptive text 
> structure 
> to 
> be  narrative in style but each idea to be of relatively equal importance.    
> So...what I want to know is this:
> Do you think we need to teach main idea as a text structure? Especially  
> since lots of school and test reading seems to be organized in a narrative  
> style 
> with the most important ideas first. Or is this misleading to kids  who will 
> think that there is only one important idea to be learned from a  particular 
> text?
> What do all of you make of this?
> Jennifer
> 


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