Jennifer - 
I think you're exactly right - there is a difference between main idea/details 
text structure and descriptive structure.  And I think you described them both 
beautifully.
The book on Lincoln may have both - and more.... that's the difficult part 
about reading content area textbooks.  Not only is the vocabulary difficult, 
but very often I find the author switiching text structures between 
paragraphs.  I think if you can get your students to recognize this, it will 
help them "decipher" the textbooks!
Dana



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Subject: Re: [Understand] Main idea....

I think what I am trying to tease out is the idea of text 
organization...descriptive text structures vs. main idea/detail text 
structure.  So many of the things I have read up to this point have them as two 
different text structures.

In a particular text, there is a main idea that the author intends and there is 
what is important from the reader's point of view which may or may not be the 
same thing. Yet, when a writer composes a text, gives it a title or subtitle 
and then organizes it by putting the most important idea or overarching big 
idea first...isn't that a main idea/details text structure? I thought a 
descriptive text structure as one where the ideas are all of relatively equal 
importance...say I was trying to write a paragraph to describe my garden. I 
would tell you what flowers were in it, how big it was, what colors the flowers 
are, the bees and birds that visit it.  If the text structure were main 
idea/details, I might start with a statement about how it is important to plant 
flowers native to your area for a successful garden and then give examples from 
my own garden that have flourished because they were native to my area...good 
for the soil and weather here in
 Maryland.  

I would think the book on Lincoln might have both kinds of stuctures in 
it..though I don't know that, since I am unfamiliar with it. I bet it would 
also be organized chronologically...

OR
Am I totally off base here...is the main idea/detail structure I have described 
above just another kind of descriptive text structure? 
What is everyone else thinking?



Jennifer Palmer
Reading Specialist, National Board Certified Teacher
FLES- Lead the discovery, Live the learning, Love the adventure.
"Children grow into the intellectual life around them."
                                                              -Vygotsky


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