On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 12:35 PM Markus Scherer via Unicode <[email protected]> wrote: > I searched amazon.de for “der große”. Not one capital ẞ on the first two > pages. Among results on those pages for recent items: “ARTHUR DER GROSSE“, > “AIR - DER GROSSE WURF“, “DER GROßE WADAS“, “DER GROSSE GOPNIK“, “DAS GROSSE > BUCH DER GUTEN GEDANKEN“, “DER GROSSE SOMMER“, “DER GROSSE YOUTUBER-BEEF“, > “DAS GROSSE BUCH DER SELBST REFLEXION“, “DER GROSSE SCHLEIMFILM“, “ALEXANDER > DER GROSSE“, 2x “DER GROSSE GATSBY“ > > Surely there are no significant limitations for book and movie titles of the > last 2-3 years that would keep their publishers from using the capital ẞ if > they wanted to. > > markus
You searched a digital database that will be displayed on user screens, some of which may not have been updated for years and might not have new fonts, and who knows when all the bibliographic systems have been updated. Using cutting edge Unicode characters is not always the best way. I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't systems that still used ISO-8859-1 or MARC-8 (a library-specific tailoring of ISO-2022) in the bibliographic loop. On the first page of searches for me, I see 14 items; looking at titles on cover pictures, two of which are lowercase and one of which, "Der große Wadas", uses a ẞ on the cover. Searching Books for Der große Gatsby shows 12 or 13 distinct covers, 6 with DER (or Der) GROSSE GATSBY on the cover, three with DER (or Der) GROẞE GATSBY, and 4 with lowercase titles. A few dated back to 2006, so it's not a trivial sample of modern covers. Amazon's pretty bad for this in some ways, but judging from those searches and a couple others, there's some use on book covers, maybe 10-15% of uppercase titles. -- The standard is written in English . If you have trouble understanding a particular section, read it again and again and again . . . Sit up straight. Eat your vegetables. Do not mumble. -- _Pascal_, ISO 7185 (1991)
