Doug says at the bottom of this missive: >But this is all very OT and I'd better stop now, because I know how >quickly this discussion can devolve into Operating System Wars.
But the locales group would very much like to see more discussion like this on the locales list. tex -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Standard Conventions and euro Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:54:45 -0800 From: "Doug Ewell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Keld J�rn Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Locale systems that force you to pick one immutable set of conventions >> for a given country are broken in general. I remember having to tell >> MS-DOS that I was in South Africa or someplace, just to get my directory >> listing the way I wanted it. *nix systems that start with "fr_FR" and >> then allow you to define "fr_FR-EURO" or something really aren't much >> better; what if I want to deviate from the pre-defined locale in four or >> five ways instead of just one? > > You have to pick one, Doug. You cannot write > "On the 3/1/02 2002-03-01 1/3/02 1/3/2002 1.3.2002 I went to..." > Or you can write it but weiting the same date in 5 different > formats in the same line is not customary and superflous. That's not what I meant, of course. I meant, what if I want to use the en_US locale (e.g. to make sure a spelling checker uses the right dictionary), *but* I also want to use: - UTF-8 instead of ISO 8859-1, and - yyyy-mm-dd instead of m/d/yy, and - 24-hour time (with seconds) instead of 12-hour, and - some "negative money" format different from the default, and - have the week start on Monday instead of Sunday (I don't know if this last one is part of the *nix locale model) Several people responded that I can go root and define my own private locale, with whatever settings I like. That's just what I would want to do, so the problem would be solved, but then I'm not really sure why I would need to give the new locale a name, since it's not interoperable. But this is all very OT and I'd better stop now, because I know how quickly this discussion can devolve into Operating System Wars. -Doug Ewell Fullerton, California

