Despite all the similarities in pronounciations of Russian U+0429 and German
"ich" , 
U+0429 seems to be very hard for pronounce Germans, who learn Russian (the
most complicated for Germans is I think U+042B, which most of them pronounce
like German "u").

Icke,
(a Russian living in Berlin)


-----Original Message-----
From: David Possin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:17 PM
To: Otto Stolz; Rick Cameron
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: German 'ich' (was: Pronunciation of U+0429)


I was thinking about Hessisch too, which is Frankfurt area and the
German Bundesland Hessen. 
I think I can distinguish about 6 different dialects, each one has a
different pronunciation of 'ich'. If anybody is interested I can
organize a conference call offlist and we can listen to the various
sounds by phone. Compare it with the Berlin version ;-)

Dave
--- Otto Stolz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick Cameron wrote:
> 
> > At http://www.philol.msu.ru/rus/galya-1/kons/n-2.htm you can find
> > audiovisual samples for the consonants of the Russian alphabet. The
> entry
> > for U+0429 (which they write as D?') sure looks and sounds like an
> ich-laut
> > to me.
> 
> Are you referring to the German standard pronounciation [A?],
> or have you, by any chance, heard this phoneme pronounced by
> a Hessian [Ef]? The latter would resemble the pronounciation of
> "N?" much more than the former (which is normally transliterated
> into Russian as "D3").
> 
> Best wishes,
>    Otto Stolz
> 
> 


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Dave Possin
Globalization Consultant
www.Welocalize.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/locales/

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