We used the term "internationalization" in Apple in late 85. We might have also used it earlier than that, I don't remember.
W0e n3r u2d t1e g1d-a3l, g3y a1d o5e a10n "i18n", h5r! Mark __________________________________ http://www.macchiato.com ► “Eppur si muove” ◄ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tex Texin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Barry Caplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Rick McGowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 13:14 Subject: Re: Historians- what is origin of i18n, l10n, etc.? > >From the books I looked at this morning, the term "localization" was > very much in use in the late 80s by most vendors. > It seems "internationalization" came later, and was more vendor specific > until 92/93. > Then came i18n. > then came l10n, g11n, e13n (europeanization), j10n (japanization)... > > > > Barry Caplan wrote: > > > > At 08:35 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, Rick wrote: > > >The earliest reference I can find to "i18n" in my old e-mail trail is the > > >following e-mail to the "sun!unicode" mail list by Glenn Wright. This was > > >Oct 5, 1989. By that time, the term was definitely current, as Mr. Hiura > > >suggests. > > > > I registered i18n.com around 94 or so, and the fellow, whose name I am trying hard to recall (first name JR, Australian or British IIRC, red hair), seemed to indicate the coinage was quite some time before that and he was very surprised when I told him how extensive the usage was by then. > > > > I'm a jonny-come-lately when it comes to unix and other standards history... is there an searchable archive of windows standards anywhere? How about a cvs server of code? It seems to me that i18n or variants could have made it into code as a function name almost immediately, or possibly even before being put into a standards doc.... > > > > It seems to me that l10n was extant by the time I came to CA ~ 1992. > > > > Perhaps Ken Lunde can shed some light - he surely came across a lot of early docs while writing his first book, which was a republication of an online archive he maintained I think. > > > > Barry > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Tex Texin cell: +1 781 789 1898 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Xen Master http://www.i18nGuy.com > > XenCraft http://www.XenCraft.com > Making e-Business Work Around the World > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >

