On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 10:10:58AM -0800, Doug Ewell wrote: > I need someone to think of a quick example, off the top of their head, > of a language (and example word) that uses the voiced velar fricative, > the voiced equivalent of the 'ch' in Scottish 'loch'. The IPA symbol > for this sound is [É], or U+0263. > > The more commonly known the language, the better (i.e. no South American > languages with 200 speakers, please).
Czech & Slovak, where it is an allophone of voiceless velar fricative, so the process of assimilation has to take part - grapheme "ch" is usually pronounced /x/, unless certain voiced consonants follow immediately - then it is indeed /É/ (U+0263). Although I noticed that especially young people in Bratislava start to pronounce it as something similar to voiced _uvular_ fricative /Ê/ (U+0281) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | Radovan GarabÃk http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__ garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | ----------------------------------------------------------- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!

