On 18/12/2003 11:35, John Hudson wrote:

At 03:54 AM 12/18/2003, Peter Kirk wrote:

Did you see my posting with the extract:

TÜRK *MİLLÎ* KODLANDIRMA SİSTEMİ. *...* . *Millî* Kodlandırma Sisteminin temelini ...


This is from a Turkish government site which comes up when I do a Google search on "millî", but the site itself doesn't seem to be available. You will find that the spellings "millî" (19,600 Google matches) and "milli" (709,000 matches, but not all are Turkish) are interchangeable, but "millı" is rare (52 matches) and so probably an error. Note the following for "National Education Ministry":

"Milli Eğitim Bakanlığı" - 22,100 matches
"Millî Eğitim Bakanlığı" - 1,270 matches
"Millı Eğitim Bakanlığı" - 3 matches


I hope you were able to see this as I sent it in UTF-8 (and clearly labelled "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed" in the copy I received back) and not only in this mojibake.



My Turkish-English dictionary gives only "milli". For the grammar and orthography, http://www.cromwell-intl.com/turkish/Index.html is a basic reference.


I am very wary about relying on web resources for such things, since one is often dealing with pages that are working within technical limitations and so do not reflect traditional typographic practice. But thanks for the information (I missed the earlier message because I have not been following this thread very closely): I'll remember to look into this next time I am up at the university library.

Understood. The websites I quote include Turkish government ones. But this does reflect current web practice rather than traditional typography. For the latter, you need to find resources which I don't have immediately available. In fact you probably need to ask a Turkish typographer. I'm afraid I don't know any! If it helps, in the banner heading of http://www.meb.gov.tr/index1024.htm there is an I with circumflex but no dot in an image, so not dependent on web limitations.

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