Did you not read my answer to you of June 7? Quote
How about A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P Q R S T V X Y Z ? There are also some extensions, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_alphabet for general background. Unquote Best regards, Jony Rosenne > -----Original Message----- > From: unicode-bou...@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bou...@unicode.org] On > Behalf Of Tulasi > Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:32 AM > To: unicode@unicode.org > Subject: Re: Latin Script > > It seems I made a minor mistake on "classic Latin script" > According to link > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Latin_alphabet > J U W are not included in "classic Latin script". > > Tulasi > > > From: Tulasi <tulas...@gmail.com> > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:53:05 -0700 > Subject: Re: Latin Script > To: vanis...@boil.afraid.org > Cc: Edward Cherlin <echer...@gmail.com>, unicode@unicode.org, Mark > Davis ? <m...@macchiato.com>, Otto Stolz <otto.st...@uni-konstanz.de>, > Jonathan Rosenne <j...@qsm.co.il> > > Actually, if I do not see letters/symbols along with names, in some > cases I cannot recognize. I am not a typographer either. > > So like > Edward -> Close, but not quite. Consider LATIN SMALL LETTER PHI (?) > it would be great should you please post both name & letter/symbol > associated with the name. > > Van -> Do you want to consider Y and Z as not Latin letters, because > they were borrowed from Greek > > I din't think Latin speakers borrowed. From my memory hole they had > adopted from Greek. And since this adoption was the work of true Latin > speakers all ALL CAPS, i.e., A B C ... ... ... Z are known to be > "classic Latin script". Also see the email by Jonathan Rosenne. > > If you read Edward's email he highlighted on chronology (of adoption > from different scripts). > > Did true Latin speakers adopt LATIN SMALL LETTER PHI (?) to Latin > script? > Or was it done very recently after Unicode was created? > > May I ask Van please, > can you post both names & symbols/letters that you referred in your > email? > Also please show how how GREEK SMALL LETTER PHI looks like. > > This will help me to understand! > > Thanks, > Tulasi > > > From: vanis...@boil.afraid.org > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:43:18 -0700 > Subject: Re: Latin Script > To: Tulasi <tulas...@gmail.com>, Edward Cherlin <echer...@gmail.com> > Cc: unicode@unicode.org, Mark Davis ? <m...@macchiato.com>, Otto Stolz > <otto.st...@uni-konstanz.de>, vanis...@boil.afraid.org, Jonathan > Rosenne <j...@qsm.co.il> > > From: Tulasi <tulas...@gmail.com> > > > Thanks for the input Edward! > > Yep, I shell explore time-chronology as well. > > > > Edward -> Close, but not quite. Consider LATIN SMALL LETTER PHI (?). > > Amazingly, I consider Latin Small Letter Phi to be a part of the Latin > script. Why?: in my typographic life, I would design it differently > from Greek small Letter Phi. The Greek phi needs to work with other > Greek letters. The Latin phi needs to work in phonetic notation, which > is Latin letters; it needs to have more contrast with Latin Small > Letter Q than the Greek phi, so it has an ascender. As a Classicist, a > Greek phi with an ascender interrupts the flow of text, unless in a > slant font, so it is designed quite differently from Latin Small > Letter Phi. It's just like Cyrillic Dze and Sha, which have been > borrowed from Latin and Coptic, are designed and act like Cyrillic > letters. > > > Mark gave a new link of letter/symbol that has LATIN (thanks Mark!): > > Mark -> http://unicode.org/cldr/utility/list- > unicodeset.jsp?a=[:script=Latn:]&g=age > > > > Now, how many letters/symbols in that link are like "LATIN SMALL > > LETTER PHI (?)", i.e., not from Latin-script? > > there's really no way to make any sort of distinction like that. Do > you want to consider Y and Z as not Latin letters, because they were > borrowed from Greek, not adapted from Etruscan? How about ? and Wynn? > They are from Runic. Should U+019B, Latin Small Letter Lambda with > Stroke be considered not Latin, even though it is not found in any > other script? There are a number of these, and the only classification > that is not completely arbitrary is to consider them ALL to be part of > the Latin script, including Latin Small Letter Phi. > > > Also, how do I find the list of letters/symbols that do not have > LATIN > > in names but from Latin-script? > > The Spacing Modfier Letters and Combining Diacritical Marks may also > need to be included for a really comprehensive list, and these are > contained in their own blocks, Phonetic Extensions, and Phonetic > Extensions Supplement. Then the question is whether you should include > Devanagari Om. What about Currency signs? Punctuation? Should it > simply be the union of Script=common and Script=Latin? Script=common > includes puntucation from all languages, so you end up with Dandas and > Arabic commas, is that right? The question really only makes sense if > it has context: for what purpose are you defining something as Latin > script? > > > Tulasi > > Van >
