Yip, sorry but IDN fast track started Nov. 16, 2009...and since then I am spending allmost fulltime on it. So not expert since 2003 helas (in domain names yes, not IDN).....but I dare to say yes in 2010. You are the highest level group re. IDN/non-Latin characters I met since, nobody could follow me anymore outside unicode.org, so now I am glad I found you.

I know reading signs, like ü have been introduced far before Nov. 16, 2009.

And IDN involves more than characters, it is also: what are keywords, what ranks high, what is commercially exploitable...and: extensions - there are over 1300 extensions in the world, which ones will come, go, etc..I run a series of web based businesses myself, so I learn more than 'only registering names' and trying to sell them 'empty', which I find a less friendly sport. And by not running web based businesses yourself you never learn what extensions do well (the answer is of course never written in a book , but amongst TLD we agree what does well and what does not well).

Re. our ß: I do know that it will be allowed in domainnames between now and a few months. So for unicoders ß may be old news, for domain names it is news now. Punycode was thought to be good enough for domain names I think May 2009 - and November 2009 IDN fast track was started. There are no books on punycode (unlike unicode) - it is newer. Not that it is better, it is just a common latin denominator of domain names across all languages.

Working out punycode? *zca *is for ß. But of course in a word it may be slightly different. I sense a tone of disbelief in Stephane's voice, I wish she/you would trust me more, before I have to prove things with past domainname achievements, Mensa membership and the like. Trust me I will catch up on unicode and trust me I am an excellent IDN man. Check with TLD experts....visits of Icann congress etc.

Philippe




the On 30-10-2010 22:08, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 07:01:22PM +0200,
  JP Blankert (thuis&  PC based)<[email protected]>  wrote
  a message of 147 lines which said:

I am a domain name (especially: IDN) expert.
A "domain name (especially IDN) expert" who does not know that ß was
mapped in IDNA 2003 but not in IDNA 2008? That's quite hard to believe
since this specific characters have been quite often mentioned.

I worked my way out +- manually now, on ß. But the issue will come
back for other languages....
Unlikely since being mapped to pure ASCII LDH was exceptional. Among
the letters, only ß was in that case.




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