This example is also NOT a titlo. What I am looking for here, is the possibility of using a conjoining middle mark for connecting the two half marks of the inverted breve (in fact top create a long arc).
But I cannot use the middle conjoining U+FE26 on the middle letter(s) with the U+FE20 and U+FE21 half marks, because it is only expected to join them at a precise height, and U+FE26 would most probably not join with U+FE20 and U+FE21 half marks. And in HTML/CSS, there's still no way to represent it using their rich-text feature, without also breaking the encoding of the joined letters (which would become part of a separate image object appearing in the middle of words: there's no such "decoration" feature defined), and also prohibiting the contextual styling of text (including the preervation of fonts used to represent the adjoined/elided letters and the rest of the text around them. I have absolutely no clear way to represent sequences like in this example that use such elongated diacritic applied to runs of more than two characters. Of course I can still use two half marks in the plain-text (only on the first and last letter), but what does happen if I cannot (and in fact don't) mark their joining above intermediate letters ? -- Philippe. 2011/11/18 Peter Cyrus <[email protected]>: > Ken, you mention "defined markup constructions", but nothing would prevent > specialized rendering software from, for example, connecting a left half > mark with the corresponding right half mark via titlo, even though the text > is still only plain text with no markup, right? The titlo would simply not > display as such in the absence of the right software. > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Ken Whistler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On 11/17/2011 11:28 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote: >>> >>> Could the Unicode text specify that a left half mark, when it is >>> followed by a right half-mark on the same line, has to be joined ? And >>> which character can we select in a font to mark the intermediate >>> characters between them ? >> >> No. >> >> This kind of stuff is not plain text. Mathematicians and musical scorere >> long ago got over >> the notion that marking of scoped constructs (with beams and ties in >> music, >> and similar kinds of scoping for expressions in math) could be plain text. >> >> People who "score" text, whether metricians, prosodic analysts, or >> phoneticians, need to learn the same lesson. Unicode is not a repository >> for text scoring hacks, with the expectation that all of the rendering >> implementations >> will quietly incorporate this kind of complexity into their already >> complex >> requirements for plain text rendering of writing systems. >> >> People who need to score text will have to make use of specialized >> rendering software and defined markup constructions, just like the >> mathematicians and musicians do. >> >> --Ken >> >> > >
