There are changes in processes, but nothing that I would consider new 
_discrimination_. Also, Mr. Pandey’s positions have always and continue to be 
very well represented in ISO/IEC JTC1/SC2/WG2.

Again, if you are not yourself engaging in ISO processes or working with your 
country’s national standards body in connection to ISO processes, then you are 
not in a good position to be critiquing ISO processes.


Peter

From: Marcel Schneider [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:05 AM
To: Peter Constable
Cc: Unicode Mailing List
Subject: RE: Accessing the WG2 document register
Importance: High


On Mon, Jun 15, 2015, Peter Constable 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

> I suggest that people on this list that have not personally engaged directly 
> in ISO process via their country’s
> designated standards bodies should stop opining and editorializing on that 
> body.
>
> ISO isn’t perfect by any means, but in the many years I have been directly 
> involved in ISO process
> I can’t say I’ve ever seen discrimination other than appropriate 
> discrimination of ideas on technical merits.

Please consider that Mr Pandey reported a *new* rule change and *new* 
discrimination you canʼt have experienced in the past.

If you have carefully read the emails in this thread, you learned that this new 
discrimination is all but “appropriate discrimination of ideas on technical 
merits” which you refer to. You will be the more indignated, and the more you 
will welcome everybody who does the same.

Having the honor of discussing here, I take the matters (I know about) very 
seriously and I know since a long time that unfortunately, persons who are 
obliged to bodies by contract tend not to point out malfunctioning, so other 
people must help to point out and find ways to correct or improve. Even if 
scarcely expecting any thanks, I underscore that unfortunately I canʼt afford 
to do this every day because it takes time, normally I must think about, mature 
and consolidate.

It would be nice if you too, Mr Constable, thanks to your inside experience and 
relationships from your ISO activity, would help Mr Pandey to get heard at ISO 
Workgroup 2 and accessed the documents register. As everybody knows, every 
person who comes up with proposals deserves full attention, respect and 
consideration, especially when the person did already great work and got 
meritorious. ISO managers who persistently prevent workgroups from ethics, 
deserve to be moved from the responsibilities they do not fulfill.

Everybody on the Unicode Mailing List is well placed to know that Unicode 
publicly reports about its activities and accepts public feedback. Quality 
insurance seems little reason for ISO not to accept input from outside national 
Standards Bodies. What are you knowing about the reasons ISO does not, and even 
recently narrowed its eligibility conditions?

Best wishes,
Marcel Schneider

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