On 22 Mar 2017, at 20:26, James Kass <jameskass...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Michael Everson wrote,
> 
>> The old EW and OI and the new EW and OI are clearly *different* letters.
> 
> "Different" versus "variantโ€?

Yes, different. All of them share the SHORT I [ษช] stroke but the base 
characters are ๐… ๐‰ (1855) and ๐‹ ๐ƒ (1859). 

> Michael's analysis seems correct.  If Deseret was not already in the 
> Standard, a new proposal for its encoding including eight characters covering 
> the two dipthongs would not be amiss, would it?  

Capital and small ๐ฆ ๐‘Ž ๐ง ๐‘ are already encoded. If the other four are required, 
nothing prevents them from being proposed and added. 

> An alternative would be to use the ZWJ mechanism to indicate a preference for 
> the desired letters.

Joining what? We encoded ๐ฆ ๐‘Ž ๐ง ๐‘ explicitly, not as ligatures, though they are 
in origin ligatures. 

> My opinion that variation selectors would be the right approach was based 
> upon concerns about existing data getting "broken".  But, if there isn't any 
> existing dataโ€ฆ

If ๐ฆ is in origin a ligature of ๐†๐‰ and the 1859 one is in origin a ligature of 
๐†๐ƒ then the 1855 and 1859 letters are **NOT** โ€œvariantsโ€ of one another. They 
are *different* letters in origin, regardless of their intended use. 

The choice to use 1855 EW or 1859 EW is a matter of *spelling*, not glyph 
substitution. If the later letters are really required, they should be added to 
the standard. We should not abandon the good precedent we have for character 
identification just for expedience. Thatโ€™d be a way to turn the UCS into a 
glyph registry. :-( 

Michael Everson

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