My point exactly. You had about the most ideal setup, but when you needed it, it could have been not enough for the conditions. All anchoring is a compromise. you need to chose the best all around solution and it will work in most conditions. The CQR is often rated better than the Delta, but at a much higher cost and its longer. It does not deploy as easy as a Delta. You may want to try 45" of chain and 400 to 500 ft of line?
At the speed you are cruising, it sounds like you do not plane, so all chain is great if you can afford it. OBTW, gappling is not as bad as it sounds if you are patient. They also sell a magnet that works great and is strong enough to pick up the chain. Keep it as far away from your compass as you can. I also use a sentinal when anchored out. I have downriggers I use for fishing and send the balls down on a slip on bronze sled I got from defender years ago. It makes a huge difference. Any old weight will work fine. Thanks Rich Zimmerman --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Kerry Lebel <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kerry Lebel <[email protected]> Subject: [UnifliteWorld] Re: Anchor Shopping To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 12:43 PM Rich this is all good info. Thanks. I could points for ya though. I would have preferred to wait an anchor in more shallow water as well. Unfortunately it was not an option. The winds were coming out of the South and blowing the boat directly into deeper water and into the ferry/shipping lanes. I needed to drop quickly. About another 200 yards out and there is a shelf that drops the water depth to about 200 ft. At which point the anchor would have been useless. Also, I have taken the power squadron class and my wife was Coast Guard. So I'm not a complete newbie to boating. Just mostly to this boat in particular. I have been boating about 12 years. This is just the first time I have owned a boat of this size. I am getting used to all the "quirky" things the PO seemed to have done to it. (like reversed fuel diagrams) As for cruising speeds we usually run around 1500 rpms which in that boat puts me between 10-12 mph depending on currents. The boat came with all that original chain. I do agree that it was plenty heavy. The ideal windlass on the boat will pull 5/8" line in so maybe I will look into some of that as well to drop the costs and weight a bit. I am looking forward to doing a lot more swinging from the hook. The boat is setup very well for it and we have a nice dinghy setup as well. I did a dock walk yesterday and the majority of the cruisers around here seemed to have Delta's on their boats. Kerry From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rich Zimmerman Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [UnifliteWorld] Re: Anchor Shopping Kerry, What the chances they took the fender and left the rest? Thats a lot of work for a small boat to haul. You may want to grapple for it. You have the GPS location. I have a Delta which I am happy with on 30' of chain. It replaced a Danforth that I used for years. The Danforth is incredible in mud and sand, but bad in grass and shells. It also will not reset in a tide change or wind change. I was in one blow of 50+ on the Delta and it held fine in mud. I carry three. the third being a small lunch hook I can use for a kedge in a grounding or as a stern hook. There is no swiss army anchor. They all were designed for a particular job. The plow is the closest all around IMHO, but has limitations. See what everyone else in your area uses. Be sure to match your boating style with theirs. Fair weather boaters get by with light weight tackle, and cruisers often have heavy multiple set ups. What is the bottom like in your anchoring area? Your last set up was a good choice, but too much chain for a plaining hull IMHO. Thats a lot of weight in the bow. Boat lenth + Line is good for my area. I don't have rock or coral. If you run as displacement, then all chain is great. Be sure to use a line shock absorber from your cleat to the water line with a belly in the chain to stop the banging in damage from all chain. Use chafing gear in a blow on line. You can go thru a 5/8 line in a few minuetes. even a rag will work. If you have never pulled anchor, and would up on the hard at night, you have missed one of boatings plesures. Right after that, you will be come an expert on ground tackle and how to use it. You may want to do that now and miss out on some of the fun. Trawlers tend to anchor more than other power boaters. Check their web sites. Remember the weight is not a factor for them or sailors. Remember, the only thing between you and those rocks is your ground tackle. You didn't plan on dropping anchor where you did. You only had about a 5 to one ratio in 45' of water. If you did not have all chain you may have dragged it the blow you described. I would have prefered to anchor in much less water, ie: wait till you drift closer to shore and then reley on your ground tackle. I would want a 7 to one or more in the conditions you were in. You as the captain are responsible for your vessel, crew and guests. Maritime law is very much different than what you are used to. Safe boating requires knowledge. Don't go out in conditions you may not be able to handle. Your Uniflite will bring you thru most bad situations, but a lot depends on you. Learn and study as much as you can, and it's a great enjoyable sport. It can be frought with dangers. Be safe. Take a USPS or Coast Guard Aux safe boating class as a starter. You will never know too much about boating, and will learn everyday. Think before you act, twice. Thanks Rich Zimmerman 914-478-0482 914-588-4407 Cell --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Kerry Lebel <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kerry Lebel <[email protected]> Subject: [UnifliteWorld] Anchor Shopping To: [email protected] Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 1:16 AM Well…the anchor and chain are gone. 300ft of 3/8” chain and a 45# anchor. Someone cut the line and took the fender. You guys called it. Saturday night I was talking to a vessel assist guy and he said another 42ft Uniflite called in that they were taking on water. Anyone on this list? Anyway, I am on the hunt for a new anchor. Should I stuck to traditional CQR or go with a Delta or Rocna? Kerry --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "UnifliteWorld" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/UnifliteWorld?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
