Bob  - Please see embeds in your email below  -Cheers! Art

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Bob S
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:15 AM
To: UnifliteWorld <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [UnifliteWorld] Squeel in the cutless bearings

 

Thanks Art.

 

Good ideas in your response. 

 

I am sure it's the cutlass bearings and your description of the inspection is 
accurate. 

 

I do scrape my zincs a couple times a year and change them every other year. I 
have never heard of magnesium anodes and will look into them,. I have the same 
issues with the zincs in my Diesels and generator. Same issue there?  Also you 
said they don't last as long. Would they last 2 years? - my normal replacement 
schedule. Depends on many factors such as stray electric current in water where 
you dock, DC elect seepage from your boat’s battery bank… as well as other 
things.   My zincs are about 90% when I replace them.  You mean 90% still 
remains??  Or do you mean 90% has disappeared?  If 90% remains then there is no 
real need to put on new ones, yet – IMO.  If only 10% remains then new ones are 
past due – IMO.  Rule of thumb is to replace anodes when no less than 1/3 of 
metal still exists. If they last 2 years there would be no cost trade off for 
me. (unless they cost more in general)  Mag anodes do cost a bit more and not 
as easy to locate as zinc.  Good luck!.   

 

I have a great yard that I have used for years. I think I will give them a call 
and talk to them about the bearings and the zincs. 

 

Thanks again for your thoughts. 

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 8:45:19 PM UTC-7, Art wrote:

Hi Bob – Couple things

 

How did the yard see the cutlass bearing interior surface to make visual 
judgement on condition?  Maybe they just tried to find slop in the shaft at 
that point and because none seemed apparent as well as end of bearing looked OK 
they said what they did.  1500 hrs is not way too long between cutlass 
replacements… but that is getting to be a few hours, for sure. 

 

I have no idea where the squeal is coming from, or why it is sounding off… you 
sure it is the cutlass?

 

Regarding zinc anodes.  IMHO they are OK to use in freshwater as long as the 
surface is scrapped clean (calcium haze / galvanization removed) every three to 
four months.  Once a year seems iffy to me for continual zinc protection.  
Magnesium is the best anode for freshwater.  They shed surface molecules more 
quickly (such as zinc does in saltwater) and do not need scraping.  Mags last 
about ¼ the time of often cleaned zinc… therein lays the tradeoff.  

 

From: [email protected] <javascript:>  
[mailto:[email protected] <javascript:> ] On Behalf Of Bob S
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 6:13 PM
To: UnifliteWorld <[email protected] <javascript:> >
Subject: [UnifliteWorld] Squeel in the cutless bearings

 

Just got back from a month out boating. Great time (retirement boating is the 
best) One issue arose.  Just before we left and for the first couple days of 
our trip we could hear both cutlass bearings squealing when the prop was free 
wheeling ( only when we were moving slowly and I put it in neutral). Just a 
single note from both until the prop stopped turning. The sound is a bit like 
using a wet finger on a wine glass. 

 

The cutlass bearings were replaced 12 years and 1500 hours running ago . We 
thought we better have them looked at and we had the boat hauled out. The yard 
pros said the bearings looked new. We had NO shimmy or vibration and have never 
had any. We decided to ignore it and went on with the trip.  The sound 
disappeared shortly thereafter and was gone for the month's trip. 

 

Now its back.

 

The only thing I can think of is- there must be some difference between  fresh 
water vrs salt water. We keep the boat in fresh water in Seattle and go through 
locks into the saltwater of Puget Sound to vacation in our Northwest island 
paradise. The sound came back within 2 running hours of being back in Lake 
Union.

 

Having the boat kept in fresh water has lots of obvious advantages. One unusual 
thing about our fresh water is that the lake water builds up a crust on zincs 
which must be wire  brushed off each year. (beats electrolysis and zinc 
replacement every year). I am wondering if the fresh water is not as good a 
lubricant for the cutlass bearings as salt water. Or there might be some lake 
crust issue?

 

Has anyone ever heard of this bearing issue? I'd hate to change them if I don't 
have to. Or should I change them as a matter of routine maintenance? I could 
have it done next year when I haul out the boat. Can you do it cheaply or do 
you have to pull the shafts as well?

 

I always value everyone opinions here. 

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